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201. How Do We Know What Really Works in Healthcare?

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🗓️ 2 April 2015

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

A lot of the conventional wisdom in medicine is nothing more than hunch or wishful thinking. A new breed of data detectives is hoping to change that.

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0:00.0

Yes, so my parents are both biologists and I did not follow their route.

0:11.1

I didn't go into the natural sciences.

0:13.3

It's Amy Finkelstein.

0:14.8

In college, I was studying political science and most of my work was qualitative and I'd

0:19.4

bring home a term paper that I was proud of and I'd have made some arguments in it and

0:23.3

my father would read it and say, well, you know, that's nice, but you could have just

0:26.8

as easily argued the other side.

0:31.4

You could have just as easily argued the other side in a family of researchers of empirical

0:36.7

thinkers, those were fighting words.

0:39.6

Amy Finkelstein eventually came around to her father's view.

0:43.0

Today, she's as impatient with a certain kind of argument as he was.

0:47.4

You know, if I talk to a friend of mine, for example, who's a law professor, they'll

0:50.4

often describe their research as, I'm trying to make the following argument.

0:55.5

I never hear my fellow empirical economists ever describing the research as, I'm trying

1:00.5

to make the following argument.

1:03.2

That's right.

1:05.1

Finkelstein wound up entering the Dismal Science.

1:07.6

I'm a professor of economics at MIT and I'm one of the scientific directors of J. Pal

1:13.9

North America.

1:14.9

We'll explain J. Pal later, but first, how Finkelstein and her fellow economists do describe

1:21.1

their research.

1:22.1

They say, I'm trying to figure out something, right?

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