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🗓️ 14 July 2025
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In May 1825, a group of prisoners arrived on the banks of the Hudson, thirty odd miles up river from New York. They began to build what would become their own jail — Sing Sing.
Don talks about the history of Sing Sing with Professor Lee Bernstein, historian of the American prison system and author of “America Is the Prison: Arts and Politics in Prison in the 1970s”.
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0:00.0 | It's the year 1831. |
0:07.0 | Alexis de Tocqueville, the aristocratic French politician and future author of the classic |
0:12.0 | Democracy in America, stands on the deck of the Ohio, a steamboat set out from the New York |
0:18.0 | waterfront heading north on the Hudson River. He and a colleague, |
0:22.0 | Gustav de Beaumont, have been dispatched by the French government to submit an investigative report |
0:27.2 | on American prison systems. A few hours upriver, as the vessel steers towards the eastern bank, |
0:33.4 | what to Tokvil spies is astonishing. There, seemingly carved from its own quarry, |
0:39.9 | is a massive stone structure. Named for the nearby village, Mount Pleasant Prison |
0:45.5 | is one of the largest penitentiaries in the world, built only a few years prior by men incarcerated |
0:51.5 | within it. It is a prison built by its own prisoners. |
0:55.0 | Over the next week, De Tocqueville and Beaumont will study convicts working under uniquely intense conditions. |
1:02.0 | Complete silence, no talking aloud. If prisoners moved, they did so in groups walking in lockstep. |
1:09.0 | De Tocqueville witnessed harsh routine beatings and observed |
1:13.0 | prisoners isolated in tiny seven-by-three-foot cells, where they took their meals and slept on |
1:19.0 | straw bedding until labor resumed the following day. It was a place of hopelessness, less |
1:24.7 | reform than retribution. And though the prison's name would eventually be changed, it remained one of the roughest places on |
1:32.7 | earth to serve time. Two centuries later, it's still in operation. Welcome to Sing Sing. |
1:44.1 | Music Welcome back to American History Hit, the podcast that explores the people, places, and events that make our heritage such a fascinating legacy. |
2:01.1 | We do our best to explain it all here with new episodes twice a week, every week, right here, |
2:05.5 | Mondays and Thursdays. There was a time when being sent up the river, being dispatched to prison, |
2:12.4 | was more than just a metaphor. It referred to a very specific prison today and for about 200 years, |
2:18.8 | located on the banks of the Hudson River, in a village once called Sing Sing, New York, |
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