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If you look at all the great movements, the social justice movements, the civil rights movements,

they were all anchored in culture. They were anchored in the arts.

It was what gathered people together. It's what

solidified them. And it's what also helped to bring about change.

That was Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, a thought leader, strategist, policymaker, and activist

who's committed to the fight for environmental

justice and economic equity. He actually worked at the United States Environmental Protection Agency

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