oh, I'm a good shooter.

And then they show up and we're like, uh, well, I don't know, what, what do you mean by good? That's subjective. I mean, how do you, how do you even start to explain that? Yeah, so, I mean, me, like you said, the easy answer is go shoot a competition. Whether you're law enforcement, military, competitive shooter, civilian, whatever out there, if you shoot a competition, you found out what you suck at really quickly.

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Max Michelle, pro-shooter.

That's such a weird job, isn't it?

It is, but it's a pretty cool job. When people say, like, you know, you're at like a PTA meeting, they're like, so, Max, what do you do for work? It's always a conversation for sure. It's like, wait, wait, what do you do? And how do you do that? Like, how many of you guys? I didn't think that was a real thing. I shoot pistols for work.

Like you're a cop?

So I started just saying like like, I'm an industry consultant for the firearms industry or something basically. Like, I try to dumb it down as easy as possible, because it's hard to explain what I really do. Yeah. Pro shooter, you know, so I can say, like, I run an obstacle course with a handgun, and that usually connects with some people. Oh, that's cool, but it's also kind of weird.

Yeah.

So if I just say I'm a consultant for the firearms industry, they're like, oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

Tell me more, you know. Now, when you, when you're, because you probably have the same thing I do, when people are like, what do you do? you're like, do I want to get into this?

And like, what's the reaction going to be?

There's a little bit of that where you're like, it's gun stuff, you know, in a regular

setting.

But I would say 99% of the time people are super positive and actually very interested, even if

they're not gun people.

Yeah, definitely.

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