People don't know who you are, how you are, how you get to where you got to, you know, and so do they just see the facade that you kind of, that you wear, you know.

I come from Kashmir. I was born in Kashmir on 13th of August 1962.

So in those days, over there, there's no electricity, there's no running water.

You know, if you want to cook a meal, you have to literally go to the nearest forest, break off some wood or whatever, collect the wood on the thing.

You have to go to the nearest spring, get the water, you know, and it was hard work.

That's when the alarm bell started to ring. He said, I want you to look after somebody for a while.

I went, what do you mean? I've got to look after somebody. What do you mean?

And he's gone, I'll brief you when we get there.

Yeah, now he's dropping this plot on me. They're about to carry the death penalty out.

Right? And we've got to do something. I said, well, what do you think you could do?

To stop that, he said, well, we're going to kidnap the High Commissioner, the Indian Consular in Birmingham.

And we're going to hold him hostage. I'm just flabbergasted, you know.

I can't think of a way out. I realize I'm properly stuck.

And now I'm thinking, what's the kind of least I can do and slip away?

I've gone, what we're doing is, because I'm expecting himself, you know, I've got somebody and you can go.

Yeah, and he's gone, no, it's bang on top. We're going to go out and shoot him.

Oh, may they should have locked us down, because everybody knew what was going to happen.

May, they opened us up. It just kicked off big style.

The others, they just got stabbed and cut. I mean, literally the landing was full of blood.

The first time he meets, he wants to create an impression.

So he's running around and he's doing kind of like little nutty things and, you know, going to, you know,

going to wear the screws boxes and making mad noises and stuff like that.

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