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20 Sales: How To Create and Execute a World-Class Sales Playbook, Why You Should Do Both PLG and Enterprise Sales at the Same Time, Three Non-Obvious Qualities the Best Sales Reps Have & The Four Steps To Sales Team Onboarding with Oliver Jay, Former CRO

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🗓️ 25 May 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Oliver Jay (OJ) is one of the most successful sales leaders of the last decade. Most recently, OJ spent 6 years at Asana where he was hired as the company's first revenue leader. As CRO, OJ was responsible for product-led and sales-led revenue and grew the team from less than 20 to over 450. Before Asana, OJ spent 4 years at Dropbox in a period of hyper-scaling for the business where OJ was Head of APAC and LATAM. At Dropbox, OJ scaled the sales team from 0 to 50 while tripling ARR. If that was not enough, OJ is also an independent board member at Grab, the leading Super app in Southeast Asia.

In Today’s Episode with Oliver Jay You Will Learn:

1.) Entry into Sales:

  • How did OJ make his way into sales with Dropbox?
  • If OJ were to choose 1-2 lessons from his time at Dropbox and Asana that have stayed with him, what would they be? How did they impact his mindset?
  • What were some of the non-obvious but crucial things Asana and Dropbox did in sales that led to success?

2.) The Playbook:

  • Why does OG disagree with so many definitions of "the sales playbook"? What is the sales playbook to OJ? What are the different chapters?
  • Should the founder be the one to create the sales playbook?
  • What are the signs that the founder has a repeatable and scalable playbook?
  • When is the right time to hire the first sales rep? Should it be a Head of Sales or Sales Rep?
  • How does the first hire depend on whether you are PLG or enterprise sales led?

3.) The Hiring Process:

  • How does OJ structure the hiring process?
  • How does OJ know the qualities that he wants to uncover in each candidate?
  • What questions does OJ ask to unpack whether the candidate has those qualities?
  • How does this differ when hiring sales reps vs sales leaders?
  • How does OJ use the sales demo to test the quality of a candidate? What does he want to see?
  • Who does OJ bring into the interview process? When do they get involved?
  • What are two questions that will immediately tell whether someone is a good manager?

4.) Sales Onboarding:

  • How does OJ segment sales onboarding into 3 crucial steps?
  • Chapter 1: Support: Why does OJ believe it is so important for reps to spend their first week with support? What should they look to learn? What questions should they be asking?
  • Chapter 2: Market Knowledge: How can sales leaders teach and educate new reps on market landscape, dynamics and competition? Why does this have to come before sales training?
  • Chapter 3: Sales Training: In the final step, what does the sales training process? What does OJ look for in the final sales demo? When does OJ let reps speak to customers? How does this differ when comparing enterprise to PLG?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to 20 Sales with me, Harry Stebbings. Now, this is the show where we take you inside the minds of some of the greatest sales leaders to reveal their tips, tactics and strategies. When it comes to scaling the best sales teams on the planet, and I'm so thrilled to be joined today by Oliver J, one of the most successful sales leaders of the last decade. Most recently, Oliver spent six years at Asana, where he was hired as the company's first revenue leader. As CRO, Oliver was responsible for product-led and sales-led revenue, and grew the team

0:26.0

from less than 20 to over 450. Before Asana, Oliver spent four years at Dropbox in a period of

0:31.7

hyper-scaling for the business, where OJ was head of APEC and Latam. At Dropbox, Oliver scaled

0:37.0

the sales team from naught to 50 while

0:38.9

also tripling ARR. And if that wasn't enough, Oliver's also an independent board member at Grab,

0:43.9

the leading super app in Southeast Asia. This is an incredible discussion. We go very, very deep

0:48.6

in many different parts of the sales process. I want to say huge thanks to Carl Parrish at Figma

0:53.0

for the intro today, without which

0:54.7

this episode would not have been possible. But before we dive into the show today, here's an

0:58.7

alarming stat for sales leaders out there. According to research done by zand.com, only 28% of

1:04.6

deals are forecasted accurately. 28%. Why is that? Either you don't have enough reliable

1:10.2

data to draw from in Salesforce, or you

1:12.4

based your forecast on wishful thinking instead of facts. So how do you get your team to input

1:17.1

all the data you need without hounding them around every corner and taking away their

1:21.2

sailing time? Well, that's where Dooley comes in. Doolie is what top performing sales reps use

1:26.2

day-to-day instead of Salesforce. It's the

1:28.8

fastest, easiest way for sellers to input deal data in real time, update their pipeline in a

1:34.1

snap, and manage every deal at once, so nothing falls through the cracks. It's a dream for sales

1:39.0

teams because reps save hours of admin gruntwork and managers get up to 60% more accurate deal data in Salesforce so

1:46.2

you can build a sales forecast you can feel confident about. Visit dully.aI forward slash demo

1:51.9

to speak with a duly rep today. And speaking of up-leveling your team with incredible tools like

1:56.4

Dooley there, Salesloft is the leading sales engagement platform helping sales teams drive more revenue with the modern revenue workspace. It's is the leading sales engagement platform, helping sales teams drive more

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