20 Product: The No 1 Metric You Need To Look at When Building Product | Why the Best in Product Have No Domain Experience | Why You Should Not Hire From Incumbents & The Difference Between Good vs Great PMs with David Lieb, Visiting Group Partner @ Y Comb
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🗓️ 21 September 2022
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
David Lieb is one of the product OGs of the last decade. As the founder of Bump David pioneered how over 150M users shared data, contacts and more before the company was acquired by Google. At Google, David took this one step further by creating Google Photos, which he has led with immense success for the last 9 years. In the last few weeks, David announced his latest move, to join Y Combinator, one of the world's leading accelerators as a Visiting Group Partner. If that was not enough, David also has a stellar angel portfolio with the likes of Rippling, Flexport, Tally, Maven and many more.
In Today's Episode with David Lieb We Discuss:
1.) Entry into Product:
- How did an idea at business school turn into Bump and ultimately the creation of Google Photos?
- What are the single biggest mistakes David made with the early Bump product?
- What does David know now that he wishes he had known at the start of Bump?
2.) Scaling the Team Alongside the Product:
- What is product-market fit to David? What is it not?
- What are the single biggest mistakes founders make when they think they have it?
- What should founders do first and most importantly, when they do have it?
- Why does David believe individual user data is more important than relying on data?
3.) Product: Art or Science:
- Why does the description we have for product managers need to change?
- How does David determine when to act on customer feedback vs stick to the current product plan?
- What is the right way to do customer discovery? What questions are best to ask? Where do founders make the biggest mistakes in customer discovery?
- Ultimately, is product more art or science? Is this changing with ever-increasing data?
4.) Product: The Process:
- How does David conduct product reviews? What are the biggest mistakes founders and product leaders make when managing product reviews?
- Who is invited? Who sets the agenda? Who determines who is accountable for what?
- How do product reviews change in a world of Zoom? What is better? What is worse? What can product leaders do to build culture in remote worlds?
- How can product leaders make everyone feel safe and comfortable to share how they feel, regardless of seniority, in product reviews?
Items Mentioned in Today's Episode:
David's Best Performing Investment: Flexport
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back. This is 20 Product with me, Harry Stebbings. This is the monthly episode where we sit down |
| 0:04.5 | with the best product leaders in the world to discuss scaling products, the teams around them, what |
| 0:09.4 | works and what does not. And I've wanted to have this guest on the show for a long time. Following this |
| 0:13.7 | guest's very recent move to become a partner at Y Combinator, Paul Graham tweeted an incredible |
| 0:18.2 | tweet about them, saying they are both formidable and benevolent. |
| 0:21.5 | I love that as a description. |
| 0:22.9 | And I'm so thrilled to welcome with that, David Lieb, one of the product OGs of the last decade. |
| 0:27.9 | As the founder of Bump, David pioneered how over 150 million people use and share data, contacts, and more, |
| 0:35.1 | before the company was acquired by Google. |
| 0:37.0 | At Google, David took this one |
| 0:38.5 | step further by creating Google Photos, which he's led with immense success for the last nine |
| 0:43.6 | years. And in the last few weeks, as I mentioned, David announced his latest move to join Y Combinator, |
| 0:48.7 | one of the world's leading accelerators as a partner. If that wasn't enough, David's also a stellar |
| 0:53.4 | angel investor with |
| 0:54.6 | investments in the likes of Rippling, Flexport, Talley, Maven and many more incredible companies. |
| 1:00.1 | But before we dive into the show's date, we need to talk about the game-changing tool that is |
| 1:04.8 | Mero. Are you and your product team still going from tab to tab tool to tool, looking for the most |
| 1:10.1 | accurate information, but losing |
| 1:11.9 | out on brilliant ideas? Well, you may not just be a PM in that case. I'm a podcast host, |
| 1:17.0 | and I need to constantly be balancing the deliverables from multiple different stakeholders, |
| 1:21.5 | whether it's my team locking down interviews, voting on potential topics for future shows, |
| 1:26.0 | or directing feedback from guests. I need to manage a show |
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