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Intersectionality Matters!

20. India Kager: A Mother's Story of Loss & Erasure

Intersectionality Matters!

Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw

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4.7814 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On September 5, 2015, India Kager and Angelo Perry drove to Virginia Beach to introduce their 4-month-old baby Roman, to Angelo’s family. Unbeknownst to them, Virginia Beach police were tailing their car and while India, Angelo, and Roman were parked at 7/11, a SWAT team threw a flash bang grenade and opened fire on their car. 4 officers fired over 51 rifle rounds into India’s car, while baby Roman sat in the back seat, killing Angelo and India within seconds. Virginia Beach police Chief Jim Cervera would later say India’s killing was an accident.  In this episode of Intersectionality Matters!host Kimberlé Crenshaw speaks with India Kager’s mother, Gina Best, about her memories of India, a “beautiful, soft-spoken poet.” She describes the anguish of never hearing from the police except to receive a bill for the destruction of the car her daughter was murdered in. While she waited for a call that would never come, officers pulled her daughter’s body out of the car and left it on the cold ground overnight. As India’s family desperately sought out information on his whereabouts, police handed India’s baby, Roman, over to foster parents. Learn More About & Support the #SayHerName Movement: aapf.org/supportshn Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw
 Produced by Julia Sharpe-Levine
 Edited by Julia Sharpe-Levine and Rebecca Scheckman 
 Additional support provided by the African American Policy Forum: Shermena M. Nelson, Emmett O’Malley, Michael Kramer, Awoye Timpo, Gregory Bernstein, Alanna Kane,
 Vineeta Singh
 Music by Blue Dot Sessions

 Graphics by Julia Sharpe-Levine
 Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Season 2 of Intersectionality Matters,

0:06.0

the podcast that brings intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues,

0:13.0

from Say Her Name and Me Too to the War on Civil Rights and the Global Rise of Fascism.

0:19.0

This idea travelogue lifts up the work of leading activists, artists, and scholars

0:24.6

and helps listeners understand politics, the law, social movements, and even their own lives in deeper, more nuanced ways.

0:43.8

Let me try to describe Gina Bess, for those of you who haven't met her.

0:47.6

She enters a room adorned in white.

0:51.6

Her long hair is wrapped elegantly in a white headwrap.

0:52.3

She's gracious.

0:53.2

She's smiling.

0:56.3

She's bringing spiritual energy in a small suitcase that brims with treasures, crystals, candles, sage, and other good-smelling things.

1:03.1

And as she unpacks each item, she carefully places them around a small table, saving the center

1:10.0

of what is now becoming a display for the most precious

1:13.6

cargo in the suitcase, a stuffed toy, a well-worn media book, and a framed photo of her

1:22.6

daughter handsomely photographed in her navy uniform. It's only the sharp intake of her breath when she pulls her hands away from the photo

1:32.3

that the excruciating pain that she carries is revealed.

1:36.3

It's the sound of a broken heart that radiates underneath her regal demeanor.

1:41.3

It's a posture that's at odds with the agonizing longing and the barely containable rage that convulsed just underneath Gina's surface.

1:53.0

She is the mother of India Kager, a Black woman killed on September 5th, 2015 by Virginia Police.

2:05.2

It's a story of police killing that is so savage, so senseless, so sudden, so

2:11.7

unnecessary, and so unjustified, that it leaves terrified witnesses to the story, knowing that in this quasi-police

2:21.8

state in which most black people live, anything can happen to any of us at any time.

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