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Writing Excuses

20.04: Puppetry as a Writing Metaphor

Writing Excuses

Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler

Fiction, Business, Careers

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

For our 20th season, we are focusing on this belief: that the lived experience that we all have affects the way we think about writing. We’ve all heard Mary Robinette talk about puppetry for seventeen (or so) seasons. Today, she dives into puppetry as a metaphor that helps her understand writing– specifically character, voice, and genre. And she invites you to start thinking about metaphors you can use and make in your own life to help you think about writing in a new way. 

Homework: Watch a puppet show. 

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Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, and Howard Tayler. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson.

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0:00.0

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0:05.6

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0:12.0

Slash writing excuses.

0:15.4

Season 20, episode 4.

0:19.4

This is writing excuses.

0:21.7

Puppetry as a writing metaphor.

0:23.7

I'm Dong Juan.

0:24.5

I'm Mary Robinette.

0:25.5

I'm Dan.

0:26.4

And I'm Howard.

0:27.6

And today we are going to be talking about my favorite subject, puppetry.

0:32.2

So the idea that we've got for you with this, and we're going to be doing this all season,

0:37.1

is that the lived

0:39.0

experience that we all have affects the way we think about writing. You've heard me talk about

0:44.2

puppetry for basically 17 seasons now, since I first appeared on season 3, season three episode 14.

1:00.0

But, um, I wanted to do kind of a deeper dive into actually thinking about it as a metaphor as a way for you to also begin thinking about things in your own life you can use as writing

1:05.5

metaphors.

1:07.7

So this is going to be a lot of me talking, but everybody else is going to chime in at some point.

1:12.8

Eventually.

1:13.4

Eventually.

1:15.4

So in season 3, episode 14, I talk about the four principles of puppetry.

1:24.8

Focus, breath, muscle, and meaningful movement. And I talk about those

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