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This Land

2. The Tribe

This Land

Crooked Media

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.88K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Muscogee (Creek) Nation's reservation spans 11 counties across Eastern Oklahoma. This land is now at stake, and the tribe’s legal team headed to D.C. to make its case in front of the Supreme Court. Learn more: thislandpodcast.com For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/this land.

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0:00.0

It was the two-day after Thanksgiving.

0:05.0

Kevin Dellinger woke up 1,200 miles away from his Oklahoma home in a hotel room in Washington, DC.

0:12.0

And it was a cold and blistery day on November 27th.

0:18.0

Kevin is the Attorney General for Muscogee Creek Nation, the fifth largest tribe in the United States.

0:26.0

That morning, he got dressed, had his coffee, organized his briefcase, and headed to the United States Supreme Court.

0:35.0

I hate to use the word battle because not necessarily a battle, but the decision to continue to hold on to what is right, what we had been promised.

0:46.0

We were upholding our treaties.

0:50.0

When I met Kevin, I immediately got the sense that he takes his job very seriously.

0:56.0

He doesn't carry himself with an air of self-importance like so many people in power.

1:01.0

He's a humble man, a creek man, with a clear-eyed view of what's at stake for his tribe.

1:07.0

The land matters, but so does everything it stands for.

1:12.0

What Kevin's tribe is fighting for at the Supreme Court is their reservation.

1:17.0

The land where they've lived for the past 180 years.

1:30.0

Muscogee Creek Nation's reservation spans 11 counties across eastern Oklahoma.

1:36.0

It's a massive expanse with small towns, farmland, and parts of Tulsa and its suburbs.

1:43.0

Muscogee Creek Nation has made this piece of Oklahoma their home, but it is not where they are originally from.

1:52.0

In the 1830s, the US government brought them here at gunpoint.

1:57.0

I think it's a horrible part of the United States history that maybe is not always told or maybe not everybody knows about, but it was a forced march from a southeast part of the United States to Oklahoma.

2:10.0

And we lost a lot of our ancestors and a lot of our families.

2:15.0

An estimated 3,500 creek people out of 20,000 didn't survive that march.

2:22.0

Imagine every six-person you knew dying just after being forced to leave the only home you'd ever known.

2:30.0

So we've already lost our original homelands once.

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