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$2 MILLION Trans Lawsuit: Detrans Fox Varian Wins Medical Malpractice Case After Surgery At 16YO Leaves Her “Disfigured For Life” w/ Rick Jaffe, Dr. Jill Simons & Emilie Hagen – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 584

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News, Politics, Health & Fitness, News Commentary

4.3851 Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2026

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

A jury in NY awarded $2 million to Fox Varian after jurors found that psychologist Kenneth Einhorn and surgeon Simon Chin committed medical malpractice by performing a double mastectomy on Varian when she was only 16. Varian told the jury she was “disfigured for life.” Now 22, Varian detransitioned and “no longer thinks of herself as a male” but suffers from permanent effects of the irreversible surgery that was performed by physicians “failing to follow proper standards.” Her case is the first detrans lawsuit to go to trial and win in the United States – one of dozens of other cases being fought nationwide. Richard Jaffe is a healthcare litigator focusing on complex medical and free speech cases. He holds a JD from Columbia Law School and a BA with honors from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He represents physicians and organizations in high-stakes litigation involving medical boards, pediatric care, and patient rights. Learn more at https://rickjaffe.com⠀Dr. Jill Simons is a board-certified pediatrician and Executive Director of the American College of Pediatricians. She previously served as Chairman of Pediatrics for Mercy and Unity Hospitals and helped establish NICU and pediatric trauma programs. Her work focuses on child advocacy, medical ethics, and protecting children from gender ideology. Follow at https://x.com/DrJillSimons⠀Emilie Hagen is an independent journalist covering the Jeffrey Epstein case and major criminal trials. She publishes investigative reporting through her Substack and social platforms. Learn more at https://emiliehagen.substack.com and https://instagram.com/emilieknowseverything 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So much to get into today. We're starting with Richard Jaffe as a health care litigator, focusing on complex medical and free speech cases.

0:11.0

He also studies the philosophy and history of science. We're going to get in some meta conversations.

0:17.5

The general topic is detransitioning. And in that vein, Dr. Jill Simons,

0:22.6

board-certified pediatrician, executive director

0:25.6

of the American College of Pediatricians,

0:27.6

wanted to know she was previously the chairman of Pediatrics

0:30.6

for Mercy and Unity Hospital.

0:32.6

And the question will be, what happened to the American,

0:36.6

excuse me, the American College of Pediatriciansians and how are they looking at these problems now?

0:42.5

And then Emily Hagen comes in and she brings in Brianna to talk to us about the Epstein files.

0:48.7

Emily knows everything.

0:49.9

And so I wanted her to tell me everything about the Epstein files.

0:52.7

And they have been studying them deeply. So we'll get into that. But first, Richard Jaffe, after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this fact. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. ridiculous. I'm a doctor for, I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time, Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.

1:27.8

You have trouble.

1:28.4

You can't stop and you want to help stop it.

1:30.1

I can help.

1:30.7

I got a lot to say.

1:31.9

I got a lot more to say.

1:46.8

All right. I'm going to give you his particulars before I bring him in here.

1:49.4

He's got a lot of stuff going on.

1:51.0

First of all, his book, Galileo's lawyer, courtroom battles in alternative health, complementary

1:56.3

medicine and experimental treatments.

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