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2/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023 by Liza Mundy (Author)

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🗓️ 19 January 2024

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2/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023
by Liza Mundy (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Sisterhood-Secret-History-Women-CIA/dp/0593238176/ref=asc_df_0593238176&mcid=d8b024f8944a3cfb869a04c0b84ba964?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608071597838&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584207596928557&psc=1

Created in the aftermath of World War II, the Central Intelligence Agency relied on women even as it attempted to channel their talents and keep them down. Women sent cables, made dead drops, and maintained the agency’s secrets. Despite discrimination—even because of it—women who started as clerks, secretaries, or unpaid spouses rose to become some of the CIA’s shrewdest operatives.

They were unlikely spies—and that’s exactly what made them perfect for the role. Because women were seen as unimportant, pioneering female intelligence officers moved unnoticed around Bonn, Geneva, and Moscow, stealing secrets from under the noses of their KGB adversaries. Back at headquarters, women built the CIA’s critical archives—first by hand, then by computer. And they noticed things that the men at the top didn’t see. As the CIA faced an identity crisis after the Cold War, it was a close-knit network of female analysts who spotted the rising threat of al-Qaeda—though their warnings were repeatedly brushed aside.

After the 9/11 attacks, more women joined the agency as a new job, targeter, came to prominence. They showed that data analysis would be crucial to the post-9/11 national security landscape—an effort that culminated spectacularly in the CIA’s successful effort to track down bin Laden in his Pakistani compound.

Propelled by the same meticulous reporting and vivid storytelling that infused Code Girls, The Sisterhood offers a riveting new perspective on history, revealing how women at the CIA ushered in the modern intelligence age, and how their silencing made the world more dangerous.

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0:00.0

This is a new book, The Sisterhood, The Secret History of Women at the C. I'm John Batcher with Liza

0:08.0

Mundi, her new book, The Sisterhood, The Secret History of women at the CIA.

0:13.0

Heidi August, born 1947-48, has a dream of being an adventurer,

0:20.0

even attracted by the U.S. government to do something romantic and worthwhile for the country.

0:26.5

It is now September 1st, 1969.

0:32.1

Heidi hired as a GS.S. 3 or G.S. 4, which is a secretary at the CIA, has been assigned to the romantic

0:41.3

spot of Libya.

0:42.3

She's in Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and she is

0:46.3

spending a weekend with a good friend of hers who's come to visit. This is

0:50.6

seen as a good post for the CIA.

0:52.8

It's on the Mediterranean and as a king named Idris,

0:55.8

who's very friendly with Washington.

0:57.8

It's 1969, for havern sakes, and there's gunfire.

1:01.3

Liza, what does Heidi think of the gunfire? What does she do about it?

1:07.3

She goes out to see what is happening and that is really a hallmark of a personality characteristic that a CIA officer that a

1:16.4

CIA spy needs is the willingness to go out his to desire and urge to go out in the street

1:21.9

when you hear something scary and dangerous and see what it is.

1:25.0

And that's exactly what she does. She goes out on her balcony and she is the first American officer to see that that Moore Mar Gaddafi is is fomenting a coup and taking it over

1:37.1

Libya that the king who's out of the country on vacation is being deposed and

1:41.6

thrown out and this this kernel in the Libyan Air Force is now going to take over as a leader of the country and so she watches that unfold.

1:51.0

She calls her boss because just as you said, Heidi, despite

1:55.9

being a college graduate political science major, wrote the agency actually at

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