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to have an astrophysicist who's taking us back very close to the beginning,

the word beginning is arbitrary.

I shouldn't use time here.

It's taking us back to a place where we're not sure what was before. Before is not useful. I don't know the language

breaks down. Aikos Bogdan is an astrophysicist at Harvard Smithsonian Center for

Astrophysics and he has written a paper about the revelation of an earliest super black hole

so far although I believe Aikos expects to find more. He's using the James

Web Space Telescope and the Chandra X-ray Observatory. Professor, I know I'm using

language that's inappropriate because time is part of the universe.

What was before the formation of this galaxy with the super black hole in the middle of it. Large stars, gas, what was in those first 470 million years that created the events you're observing?

Well, I mean, what happened before is essentially gas was falling onto the dark matter

of HALO.

So we had a dark matter of HALO in which these galaxy seats and in which every galaxy seats.

And then gas was falling onto this dark matter of halo and then a large amount of gas formed the black hole and then some other

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