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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

2.14.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: Mystery DNA in the Kohberger Case - What That Could Mean For The Defense

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum open CRU with a heartfelt tribute to their friend and colleague, Dave Mack, following the loss of his wife, LaDonna. Despite his grief, Mack’s dedication to his work shines through. Nancy and Sheryl then dive into the latest developments in the Bryan Kohberger case, unpacking the discovery of two unidentified male DNA samples and what they could mean for the defense. They also revisit the case of Ellen Greenberg, a teacher whose suspicious death was ruled a suicide.

When you purchase a copy of What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice all proceeds is going to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children - NCMEC

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
  • (0:10) Sheryl and Nancy honor LaDonna Mack 
  • (5:00) Latest on Bryan Kohberger case - two mystery DNA samples
  • (7:00) Unidentified male DNA samples - a glove found outside, another on a banister inside 
  • (10:00) The controversy over demolishing the crime scene 
  • (14:00) The defense’s strategy to creating doubt
  • (18:30) Ellen Greenberg case 
  • (21:00) What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice
  • (26:00) Valentine’s plans and closing thoughts 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Crime Roundup.

0:12.1

Nancy Grace, I got to say something to you right out of the gate.

0:15.5

You, more than anybody that I know, whether it is good or bad events with your friends, you don't jump,

0:25.8

you don't spring into action, you catapult.

0:30.5

And I tell you, this week, our sweet friend, Dave Mack, lost his beautiful wife, LaDonna, and you catapulted into action.

0:41.6

And I just, you know, my heart just breaks for him.

0:45.8

Dave is not just a colleague.

0:49.7

He is a very, very dear friend.

0:52.6

Can I tell you something about Dave Mac? The first one up in the

0:56.3

morning. Sometimes I think it even beats me. And he, I get, Dave is responsible for so many things

1:04.3

for crime stories. But one of the main things he does is he comes up with all that amazing sound.

1:13.8

Like when I say, Brian Khyberger, just in court, blah, blah, blah, listen, that's Steve Mac saying, you know, what has just happened.

1:24.7

And then I jump off of that and start talking about it.

1:28.9

And the reason I do that is because I figure people get tired of hearing just me all the time.

1:33.8

So I like them to hear Dave or Sydney or Jackie giving the news or any of our crimeonline.com reporters.

1:41.7

They're all amazing.

1:43.9

But that's Dave.

1:45.1

And at the last minute, if I say, uh-oh, did he got, did he just call some more charges?

1:51.7

What does he do?

1:53.3

Rush in the studio.

1:54.5

It might be 12.30 at night and makes it all happen.

2:00.8

And never complains.

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