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Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urton, the founder of 1,000

hours outside. And I'm so excited. The Shannon Martin is back. Welcome, Shannon. I'm so happy to be

back. Thank you. I love when this kind of thing happens because I loved your book. It

starts with Hello and you so graciously came on to talk about it. And then you have a new book

coming out. So it worked out. Well, I get a second chance to spend time with you. This is a

fantastic book about, well, the subtitle is an essential practice for holding hope in a heavy world.

And it's about the balancing of the heart and the good. And the book is called counterweight. It's beautiful. I'm holding up. Actually, I have like a binder version. It got printed out and they put like a, what is this even called? The spiral binding. Like a little spiral. Yeah.

Yes. So I got it was like that's that part in advance. But this book is out now and you can go pick up a copy. I love this whole concept. I mean, I didn't really know what it was going to be, but I knew that I'd love start with hello, so I was excited to read it. And you're talking this to a lot about your dad. Like, what an interesting dad. He's into gardening and he builds things and he just passes on

this wisdom. And this is sort of leading into the concept of the book, the title Counterweight.

So if you wouldn't mind, I'd love if you tell us about your dad, Dwight. I would love to,

Dwight. Yes. I just saw him yesterday. So I live in Indiana. I grew up and my parents are still in Southwestern Ohio. But I was just there yesterday with him. So, yes, I owe the premise of this book to my dad. And I've sort of merged him with the poet Rilke, who talks about, you know, the beauty and the

terror, that life is built of beauty and terror.

My dad's part of this.

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