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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 742: Giving Kids Their Time Back | MacKenzie Price, 2 Hour Learning

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this fascinating conversation, Ginny Yurich sits down with MacKenzie Price, founder of 2 Hour Learning and co-founder of Alpha School, to talk about what happens when kids stop spending their best hours trapped in an outdated system and start using that time to actually live. Together they explore personalized learning, the promise and tension of AI, the loss of childhood margin, and why giving kids their time back may be one of the most hopeful ideas in education right now. If you’ve ever wondered whether school could look more human, more effective, and more aligned with real life, this episode will leave you energized, challenged, and imagining something better. Alpha’s model centers on “2 Hour Learning,” where core academics are completed in about two hours and the rest of the day is opened up for life skills, projects, and real-world experiences. Learn more here ! A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  ⁠www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS⁠  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit ⁠www.quince.com/outside⁠ and get free shipping and 365 day returns Woom Bikes - Go to⁠ woom.com⁠ and use code OUTSIDE10 at checkout for 10% off your bike purchase KiwiCo- Get up to 50% off your first monthly crate at ⁠www.kiwico.com ⁠ and use code 1000hours. Pocket Hose - text OUTSIDE to 64000 to.get a FREE, 360 degree rotating pocket pivot, AND a FREE thumb drive nozzle with purchase. IXL Learning - Head to ⁠www.ixl.com/1000hours⁠ to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to ⁠www.wayfair.com⁠ and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to ⁠www.curehydration.com/outside⁠ to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:27.8

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0:32.7

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0:42.3

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0:47.2

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1:13.8

1,000 hours outside podcast my name is jenny urcham the founder of 1,000 hours outside and i have a woman on

1:18.7

today who i have admired and been curious about for a very long time founder of two hour learning

1:25.1

mackenzie price welcome well j well Jenny I am right back at

1:29.3

you in terms of being a fan a thousand hours outside is I think kind of epitomizes

1:34.6

what childhood should be and actually I think adults should take advantage of getting

1:39.7

outside and enjoying as much time there as possible and so that's one of the things

1:43.9

that I love doing with our education model is get kids out in the world.

1:49.0

Absolutely.

1:50.0

And I think this is one of the biggest problems is that childhood has just gotten sucked up by so many adult-directed things.

1:56.0

The time piece is really the biggest piece.

1:59.0

I talked to this man, Dr. Peter Gray, and he talks about how school used to be way shorter.

2:03.2

It was hours shorter. Recess was a third of the day. So if it was a six-hour school day, two of the hours was recess.

2:11.1

And kids were being able to socialize and go home and go sled and like have time to eat their lunch.

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