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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 734: Resist the Temptation of Security | William Deresiewicz, Excellent Sheep

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This conversation with William Deresiewicz, author of the bestselling Excellent Sheep, gets to the heart of a question so many families are quietly carrying: what does it actually mean for a child to flourish? Ginny and Bill talk about the way college admissions can cast a shadow backward over all of childhood, turning kids into performers instead of people, and why playtime, downtime, family time, books, boredom, risk, and real freedom are not extras but essentials. It’s a deeply thoughtful episode about stepping off the treadmill, resisting fear-based parenting, and giving children the space to become fully themselves. Get your copy of Excellent Sheep here Learn more about Bill and all he has to offer here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  ⁠www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS⁠  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit ⁠www.quince.com/outside⁠ and get free shipping and 365 day returns Woom Bikes - Go to⁠ woom.com⁠ and use code OUTSIDE10 at checkout for 10% off your bike purchase KiwiCo- Get up to 50% off your first monthly crate at ⁠www.kiwico.com ⁠ and use code 1000hours. Pocket Hose - text OUTSIDE to 64000 to.get a FREE, 360 degree rotating pocket pivot, AND a FREE thumb drive nozzle with purchase. IXL Learning - Head to ⁠www.ixl.com/1000hours⁠ to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to ⁠www.wayfair.com⁠ and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to ⁠www.curehydration.com/outside⁠ to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're a parent, you know how hard it is to find drinks that are actually good for your kids and still taste good enough that they'll drink them.

0:07.1

That's why we have been loving cure hydration.

0:09.2

I always read the label before I let my kids have anything and cure checks every box.

0:13.8

Their hydration packs for adults are plant-based, have no added sugar and only 25 calories.

0:18.7

I use them in the mornings to jumpstart my water intake or when we're

0:21.8

traveling, especially flights, because they just make staying hydrated easier. Lemonade is probably

0:26.5

my favorite right now. It's clean, light, and never taste artificial. And since it hydrates

0:30.8

better than water alone, I actually feel the difference. The kids' mixes have been a big shift

0:35.4

in our house. My kids used to resist plain water,

0:37.7

especially after being outside all day. Now they will happily drink cure. It's formulated with

0:42.4

pediatricians, free of artificial flavors and major allergens, and has no added sugars. We use

0:47.9

it after sports, long outdoor days, or even when someone's feeling run down. Staying hydrated

0:52.2

isn't just about water. You also need electrolytes. That's why my family loves cure. It's clean, tastes great, and my kids love it. You can grab Kier on Amazon or find a store near you at curehydration.com slash outside. Real ingredients, real hydration, ready for the whole family. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Erit, I'm the founder of 1000

1:12.9

Hours Outside. And I'm really, really looking forward to this. I read this book a while back.

1:18.0

It's called Excellent Sheep, the Miseducation of the American Elite and the Way to a Meaningful Life.

1:22.8

And I loved it so much. And I just thought, I don't know, it's from 2014. Will the author want to come on?

1:28.8

You know, because often authors only come on when they're promoting the book when it first comes out.

1:33.5

And so we reached out and you said, yes, the author, Bill DeRezowitz, is here. Welcome, Bill.

1:38.5

Thank you so much. Thank you. And I'm always happy to talk about the book. And I should mention

1:43.2

that it came out in the 10th

1:45.3

anniversary edition just a year ago. So we're good. Oh, perfect. Perfect. It's a book launch anyway.

1:51.9

This book is critically important. It's a thin-ish book as books go. So even so, I have 11 pages

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