1KHO 726: Deliberate Rest | Alex Pang, Rest

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Ginny Yurich sits down with writer and researcher Alex Soojung-Kim Pang to reclaim something our culture keeps treating like a reward: real rest. Drawing from Rest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less and his work on the four-day workweek, Alex makes the case that rest isn’t what you do after life finally calms down—it’s the engine that makes good work, good parenting, and a good life possible. You’ll hear why history’s most creative people didn’t grind nonstop (they worked in focused bursts, then walked, napped, played, and protected their attention), why shorter workweeks tend to make people more present and “ridiculously wholesome,” and why kids’ independence and unscheduled time are not luxuries but developmental fuel. This conversation will make you want to put your phone down, step outside, and start building a life where work and rest are equals on purpose. Get your copy of Rest here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below: BetterHelp: Visit ⁠www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS⁠ today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit ⁠www.quince.com/outside⁠ and get free shipping and 365 day returns Woom Bikes - Go to⁠ woom.com⁠ and use code OUTSIDE10 at checkout for 10% off your bike purchase KiwiCo- Get up to 50% off your first monthly crate at ⁠www.kiwico.com ⁠ and use code 1000hours. Pocket Hose - text OUTSIDE to 64000 to.get a FREE, 360 degree rotating pocket pivot, AND a FREE thumb drive nozzle with purchase. IXL Learning - Head to ⁠www.ixl.com/1000hours⁠ to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to ⁠www.wayfair.com⁠ and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to ⁠www.curehydration.com/outside⁠ to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	My kids used to ask for sugary sports drinks at every gas station stop, and I just couldn't get on board with the ingredients.
0:06.7	Then we found cure hydration, and honestly, it solved the whole thing.
0:10.6	Cure makes plant-based electrolyte drink mixes with no added sugar and no artificial ingredients.
0:15.7	For my husband and me, we have used hydration packs a lot.
0:18.7	I'll throw one in my water bottle before podcast interviews or on travel days or even mid-afternoon when I realized I haven't had enough to drink.
0:25.1	My favorite flavor right now is berry pomegranate.
0:27.8	It's refreshing, not overly sweet, and it actually makes me want to finish my water.
0:32.1	And that's the key.
0:33.1	It hydrates better than water alone and uses the same science-backed formula shown to work as effectively
0:38.4	as an IV drip. And then there are the cure kids mixes. They're formulated with pediatricians
0:44.1	completely free of artificial dyes and added sugars and they taste great. My kids love the fruit
0:48.8	flavors and I love knowing they're replacing electrolytes after long days outside, sports
0:52.9	practices or hot afternoons. Staying hydrated isn't just about water. You also need electrolytes after long days outside, sports practices, or hot afternoons.
0:55.1	Staying hydrated isn't just about water. You also need electrolytes. That's why my family loves
0:59.7	cure. It's clean, tastes great, and my kids love it. You can grab cure on Amazon or find a store
1:04.9	near you at curehydration.com slash outside. Real ingredients, real hydration, ready for the whole family welcome to the
1:14.0	one thousand hours outside my name is jenny urch i'm the founder of one thousand hours outside
1:17.8	and i have just read a phenomenal book it's been around for a little bit but came out in a new
1:22.2	edition it's called rest why you get more done when you work less and the the author, Alex Sujun Kim Pong, is here. What a book.
1:31.6	Thank you for being with us, Alex. Oh, thanks for having me, Jenny. Pleasure to be with you.
1:35.6	So this is not your only book. You also have a book called Shorter, which is about the four-day work week,
1:40.3	which is like the dream. The dream I think everybody thinks if the work week could be four days
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