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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 706: Held Hostage By the Food Industry | Dr. Robert Lustig, Metabolical

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Robert Lustig—pediatric endocrinologist, bestselling author, and one of the clearest voices on what’s happened to our food—joins host Ginny Yurich on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast for a conversation that feels equal parts wake-up call and real hope. Lustig explains why so much chronic disease isn’t really “druggable” but foodable, how ultra-processed food quietly sabotages the mitochondria that power everything, and why the “calories in, calories out” story is the perfect industry shield. Along the way, he breaks down the eight internal “pathologies” that turn our bodies from a shiny red Corvette into a jalopy, shows why kids are paying the price first (from school lunches to baby food), and offers a simple way forward that doesn’t require perfection—just a steady return to real food. Mentioned in the episode: Eat Real schools initiative (eatreal.org), Lustig’s fiber project BioLumen and Monch-Monch (monchmonch.shop), the grocery-filter tool Perfact (perfact.co), plus his books Metabolical, Hacking of the American Mind, and Fat Chance. Learn more about Dr. Lustig and all he has to offer here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, oh, it's a beautiful world.

0:05.0

Ain't nothing on a screen that's ever gonna beat this view.

0:10.0

Oh, oh, it's a beautiful world.

0:16.0

And I just wanna share it with, I just want to share with you.

0:22.9

This beautiful world, such a beautiful world.

0:30.0

Oh,

0:30.5

Oh.

0:34.0

Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast.

0:36.2

My name is Ginny Urich.

0:37.0

I'm the founder of 1,000 Hours Outside. And I possibly have never been more excited to have a podcast guest today. Dr. Robert Lustig. Welcome. Thank you for having me, Jenny. I'm very pleased to be here. I read your book, Fat Chance, back in 2015, and then have most recently read Metabolical and the Hacking of the American Mind, which

0:54.6

Metabolical I learned about in a book by Van Hary called Food Lies. And I remember when I saw the

0:59.8

title, I was like, it's such a brilliant title, like, Metabolical. That's what it makes me think

1:03.9

about. But these books are absolutely fantastic. I think a must read for any family. And you

1:10.3

have got just such an extensive history.

1:12.3

I would love for you to talk about, you know, because we were just talking about how so many

1:16.7

people, and I would say myself included, like I just haven't really done all that much with my life.

1:21.4

And I read your, you know, your backstory and you like majored in nutritional biochemistry at MIT.

1:27.1

Then you went to Cornell and then

1:29.3

you've worked as a pediatric endocrinologist you got into the obesity field in 1995 currently you're

1:36.3

the co-founder of so many businesses you're helping with school lunches and i mean everything from

1:42.9

school lunches to these New York Times best-selling

1:45.8

books and it's just such an extensive thing. So would you talk about and then you talked

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