Here we're go. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is

Ginny Erich. I'm the founder of 1000 hours outside and I'm so so so so so excited

that Mary Heffernan is back. Welcome. Thank you. It's fun to be back here again. It feels like an old friend meeting.

Yeah, so cool. I absolutely adore your cookbooks. That's what we talked about last time.

You had a new cookbook that was coming out and we have both of the

cookbooks and then the coolest thing Mary is I see them everywhere like especially at

Bucky's do they have buckies over on your side of the country?

They don't, but everybody sends me pictures of it there and I love it because I still to this day have not seen my

cookbook in a store. No way. I don't get out much apparently. I see it everywhere. I mean I would say that yours is one of the books that I see the most often is your cookbook it's a phenomenal cookbook and we have been following along with Five Mary's Farms for years and years

and all of the things that you're doing.

And you just had a new book that came out.

That is an awesome one for families and for kids.

It's called the Hands On Ranch Book book how to tie a knot start a garden

saddle a horse and everything else people used to know how to do is a fantastic

book can we just start off by telling about, like,

what did people used to know how to do?

Well, this book is like right up your alley

because it really is like all about getting kids outside learning everything from like survival

skills to basic skills and I feel like it's just a lot of things that we are used to so many amenities nowadays that we don't necessarily need.

Like when's the last time you used a map, like an actual map, right?

They don't even sell them in gas stations anymore, at least not all of them.

But these things like reading a compass, reading a map, how to start a fire, how to purify water,

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