Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside Podcast. I'm so thrilled today to have Linda McGirk and we are going to be talking about a book that changed my life. There's no such thing as bad weather. Is it true, Linda?

It is to an extent. It's also, I like to say it's one of those sort of semi truths that

Parents love to tell their kids you know just to to get them outside so you, by and large, I think it's true. But I agree. And you know, I tell you what, everyone talks about this book. Everywhere I see people are talking about how this book changed their life. So, I'm so excited to have you on Linda.

Linda is a journalist and a photographer who grew up in Sweden, approximately on the

same latitude as the Gulf of Alaska. She spent time in nature with her two young daughters.

She's a worm digger, a frog catcher, a splinter remover, a tree identifier.

These are good qualifications.

Mud cleaner, upper, tent raiser, bandaid provider,

fire, builder, and chief.

I love that.

And she was taught to go outside every day,

rain or shine because it was good for her and I know you say in your book you

know you came to America and it was a little bit of a culture shack right you know it

it was it was I noticed that you know American kids just did not seem to be as connected with nature as a lot of the

skin knaving kids were and I think it just had to do with the way they were raised and just a different culture. So yeah, it was definitely a shock and that's also what you know motivated me to write the book.

Yeah, and you have been writing for a while, you have blog, you said you're a journalist,

how long had you been writing and sort of mulling these things over before you wrote the book?

I really got the idea for it when my oldest daughter was born because that's when that

became you know so obvious and yeah and she's she's 13 today and she yeah and the book came out when she was nine.

So it was a pretty, it was a pretty long process.

But, you know, I just, it had to take that time.

I had to, that way the book was able to follow her or my kids progress as they got older and

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