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🗓️ 7 April 2020
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| 0:00.0 | Civics 101 is supported in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. |
| 0:09.2 | This is Civics 101, the podcast about the basics of how our democracy works. |
| 0:14.3 | Hannah McCarthy here. Nick Capedice here too. We are about to dig into part two of a two-part |
| 0:19.9 | episode on the 19th Amendment. If you haven't listened to part one, I recommend you hit pause on this, |
| 0:26.8 | go back and give it a listen. There's a whole lot of context in there that will make what you're |
| 0:31.7 | about to hear actually make sense. Okay, that's all. Thanks for listening. |
| 0:38.0 | Our first episode on the 19th Amendment left us in this murky place. The 15th Amendment, |
| 0:58.5 | the amendment that granted African-American men, the ostensible ability to vote, had just been |
| 1:04.0 | passed. Victory for American democracy, right? Except, well, not so as far as Susan B. Anthony and |
| 1:12.4 | friends were concerned. Yeah, this really shocked me. It's part of the narrative that I had not been |
| 1:16.6 | familiar with. This felt like the glass shattering moment because this whole swath of the women's |
| 1:23.0 | suffrage movement breaks off to form a new organization that is in part opposed to the 15th Amendment. |
| 1:29.5 | Yeah, this is a political choice that Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton make. The argument is |
| 1:40.5 | white women should get the vote before African-American men. So Anthony and Stanton break off and they |
| 1:46.3 | form the National Women's Suffrage Association dedicated to the defeat of the 15th Amendment, |
| 1:52.3 | which feels so horrible, right? Especially when we're talking about a movement that did ultimately |
| 1:57.8 | result in the 19th Amendment, which to be fair is a good thing. I kept pushing this question |
| 2:04.7 | during my interviews like, okay, Stanton and Anthony and a lot of their cohort were the awful |
| 2:11.4 | racists, right? So here's Laura-Free History Professor at William and Hobart Smith College's |
| 2:17.6 | and author of Suffrage Reconstructed. I think we have to say yes, these suffragists were racist |
| 2:24.3 | in these moments and they were also important advocates for equality in America at certain times |
| 2:31.0 | in their lives. So I view this as a kind of yes and approach to thinking about racism in the |
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