From Relay FM, this is Upgrade episode 196. Today's show is brought to you by away,

Ero and timing. My name is Mike Hurley. I am joined across this lovely table

somewhere in a secret location in San Jose, California by Mr. Jason Snell.

Hi Jason Snell.

Hi, Mike Hurley.

From high above San Jose, California.

Looking down upon the beautiful developers below, the migration of developers that is occurring from the

W.W.C. Convention Center to many various lunch and coffee places around it is lunch time.

Because we have just seen the end of the keynote, the WDC keynote for this year and we've got a ton to talk about but of course we must start every episode as we always do with a hashtag snow talk question and this one comes from me to you Jason because I wanted to ask a follow-up

question based upon last week's question of your seating in the keynote. How was your seat at the

keynote this year? Really good. Really good. Usually what's happened at

W.W.C. is they bring in the media and they take us all the way off to the side

and put us kind of like way in the back on the side.

And I fully expected that this time and they led us to basically right in the front.

So we were center.

So what we know in is that somebody, this person in charge of seeing,

listen to last week's episode and they were like,

oh, we cannot have Jason Snow in a position.

We must give him a Gracie.

They decided to take us media type people and put it and put us in the center which was very nice.

It was a much nicer view than we had lately.

I could see the people on stage a little bit.

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