195. GO BIG #2: A Big Idea to Rethink the Economy
Reasons Revisited
Geoff Lloyd
4.8 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2021
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Hello! From New Zealand to Finland, countries are experimenting with alternatives to using gross domestic product (GDP) as the primary measure of national success. For our second special episode on ideas from Ed’s book Go Big, we’re asking: could changing what we measure help to transform the economy? Katherine Trebeck from the Wellbeing Economy Alliance talks us through the recent developments. We catch up with economist Kate Raworth about how her idea of Doughnut Economics is taking the world by storm. And Mayor of Newham Rokhsana Fiaz tells us about using health and wellbeing as the measure of local success.
Go Big is out now in hardback, ebook and audiobook, narrated by Ed and with a bonus conversation between Ed and Geoff: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1119347/go-big/9781847926241.html
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| 0:00.0 | This is Raisins to Be cheerful with Edmila Band and Jeff Lloyd. |
| 0:12.0 | Live on tape from Don Kaster, it's the Edmila Band show. |
| 0:16.0 | Well hello, how are you? |
| 0:18.0 | I'm well, I've had another busy week monitoring your media appearances. |
| 0:22.0 | Go on, you've been busy promoting the benefits of cold water swimming and to a lesser extent your book. |
| 0:29.0 | I saw you on Morning TV. |
| 0:31.0 | Lorraine? |
| 0:32.0 | Yes, love her. Did you enjoy it? |
| 0:34.0 | Lorraine was lovely. Lorraine's on ITV for those who don't know. She's been on ITV for a long time. |
| 0:39.0 | People know, she's beloved. This is not new information to anyone. |
| 0:42.0 | Go on. |
| 0:43.0 | She has her own program, Lorraine Kelly. |
| 0:45.0 | And as I was standing now, I was just talking to someone from my office just before the interview. |
| 0:50.0 | And I said, oh, just hang on one sec. |
| 0:53.0 | Let's just look at the intro. Let's Lorraine's intro to the whole program. |
| 0:57.0 | I said, and later we'll be talking to Edmila Band about how politics drove him into therapy. |
| 1:02.0 | Oh, no. |
| 1:03.0 | And I thought to myself, that's like a thick-of-it moment, you know, to me. |
| 1:07.0 | Anyway, but she was lovely. |
| 1:09.0 | Oh, she's so wonderful. |
| 1:11.0 | Oh, she's lovely. |
| 1:12.0 | I met her. |
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