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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

195: Derek Thompson - What Makes Something A Hit? (Hit Makers)

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk

Business, Careers, Management

4.91.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2017

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Episode 195: Derek Thompson - What Makes Something A Hit? (Hit Makers)

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"Think of speechwriting like a music composer.  Use repetition and choruses."

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

  • What makes something a hit?
    • Is there a formula?  No, there is not a formula... People think there is and that's a mistake
    • Bottom line: "Distribution beats content" -- "This is an unsentimental book"
  • There is power in distribution
  • How did Simon Sinek's TED Talk go viral?
    • It was shared by people with millions of followers on multiple platforms like Reddit
  • Think: Who is my audience? Broadcast your content to the right audience
  • Why do we always watch Dumber and Dumber and Shawshank Redemption?
    • There is nostalgia in art
    • We are always trying to recover existential love
  • How did Bumble spread?
    • Injected into mainstream consciousness through celebrity -- Start with one very attractive sorority and continue to repeat
  • How did Facebook spread?
    • Piggy backed off of other networks (Harvard)
  • How Jon Favreau and President Barack Obama write speeches:
    • They think like musicians
      • Using choruses and repetition
  • The best speeches connect with people where they are -- "The power of repetition in song is remarkable"
  • How has Derek made his book a best-seller?
    • Familiarity and repartition followed by surprise
      • Familiar surprises throughout
      • Great distribution

"We don't like pure originality that much.  We like familiarity." 

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0:00.0

We don't like pure originality that much we like things that are sneakily familiar

0:06.2

We like new songs that sound a lot like older songs. We've already decided that we like we enjoy enjoy new movies that are sequels, adaptations, or

0:14.3

reboots, or even original movies that are, again, are sneakily familiar. We even like political essays

0:21.2

or podcasts that take a subject area that we already know a lot about

0:25.8

and advance it by only a little bit, by testing our capacity for thinking, but not entirely

0:31.7

breaking it. Hey and welcome to the Learning Leader Show.

0:37.6

I am Ryan Hawk.

0:38.8

Thanks so much for being here.

0:40.6

What an intelligent featured leader tonight. My guest is Derek Thompson,

0:44.9

a senior editor at the Atlantic magazine and a weekly news analyst for NPR's here and now also

0:51.2

recent best-selling author of his book titled Hitmakers,

0:54.8

The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction,

0:58.5

named to Forbes 30 under 30 list and times 140 best Twitter feeds Derek's really thought-provoking

1:05.9

speaker. A few of the topics we got into, what makes something a hits? Followed by

1:11.8

what was the key to Facebook's massive growth then how

1:16.0

President Barack Obama and John Favreau think of the speech writing process and

1:21.6

how it relates to music.

1:24.1

Ladies and gentlemen, I guarantee you will find this one interesting

1:27.6

with Derek Thompson. All right, Derek, thanks so much for being here on the Learning Leader Show.

1:38.8

Welcome.

1:39.8

Thanks, it's great to be here.

1:41.4

I saw a tweet from a former guest

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