What's up, everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com, and you're listening to the

IndieHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of

money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these indie hackers to discuss the ideas, the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of. So the rest of us

can do the same. I'm here with Saba, K'inajad, the founder of Veed, which is one of the fastest

growing companies that I've ever featured on the show. So what's your revenue Saba today versus

what it was, you know, last year,

the beginning of 2020. So today we're at 3.3 million ARR. December last year, it was about 150K

ARR. This is concept of boiling the frog. You put a frog in a pot and you turn up the water

and, you know, he's just going to sit there and let you boil them alive. the whole idea is you know we just don't we don't really notice when things are changing slowly but like your revenue has changed incredibly quickly like that's one year from like hey we're kind of ramen profitable like maybe we can quit our jobs to like oh shit we're rich we can do whatever we want we whoever we want, we can build whatever we want, like we're on top of the world. What's the biggest thing that's changed in your life, having gone from such a small company to such like a large and growing company in that short of time span? Nothing has really changed my life personally day to day. I actually think I'd probably work a bit less than I did maybe a year ago. So we've got more great people helping us. It has in hindsight

grown incredibly quickly. But day to day, it doesn't feel like that much changes. Instead,

it kind of feels a bit more like every three months, I have to kind of like fire myself from my

old job and kind of get more people to help and take up different responsibilities. And that's been quite hard to get used to. But it's been a fun journey, though. An old interview with Elon Musk that I watched the other day were like he had just sold his first company and made like a hundred million dollars or something crazy. And he bought like a McLaren F1 and he was just like sitting in front of his house with his girlfriend like I got one of the rarest cars in the world and like I'm gonna drive it around and go super fast and like I'm just the cool I'm the shit you know like I'm rich now like he just cared so much about having this car and like obviously today if you look at that guy like he's trying to put people on Mars and he's trying to change like everybody to driving electric cars

and it's like only focused on like weirdly ambitious like world changing things I think that's one

thing I've seen pretty consistently with everybody I know who's like gone from you know starting small

to like making it big it's like your ambitions kind of ramp up and so I wonder if that's the case with

you because like if Elon didn't start off with these world changing ambitions I I'm sure almost no one does. You know, did you think a year ago

that Veed was going to become this huge thing? And also like have your ambitions changed,

have your goals changed since back then. Completely. There's also an interesting, I heard an

interesting conversation with Elon Musk and going straight to like making spaceships or whatever

is like super, super challenging and pretty much unattainable for anyone, unless you've had a few

successes before. And I think one of the examples that he used was like, oh, just make a nice

photo sharing app. I thought it's quite a funny like analogy. But no, my ambitions have completely

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