whether it's grace, God, the universe love, universal love is like the sun. Here's though,

it's not hitting you. But if you're in the house in a room with the lights and the shades turned off,

it's going to appear as though it's not hitting you. You have to make the choice to open the

blinds, walk through the door, walk outside, and then feel the rays. And even at times when you're

in the house and the blinds are open, you can see the sun shining in. So it's always searching,

it's always there for you. You just have to figure out what it is that you need to do

to let it hit your skin. And sometimes it takes a friend to get you out of bed. Sometimes it takes

a family member to open the door. Sometimes it takes a teammate to walk with you outside so that

the sun can hit you. What is going on, everyone? Emily Abadi coming to you from the AG studio. You

are listening to episode 194 of Hurtle. A wellness focus podcast where I connect with everyone from

your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments,

and everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life. And Michael, through these

discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours and move with intention so that you can

stride toward your own big potential. And of course, have some fun along the way. For today's

episode, I am chatting with Neca Ogumake. She's a WNBA player for the lost Angela Sparks and

honestly, I so needed this conversation. If you are not motivated to work hard and be a good

human after listening to this chat with Neca loaded with so many gems, so many great one liners,

then you you weren't really listening. We talk about what it is like for her to grow up in an

active family going to Stanford and traveling to play basketball overseas. She also shares the

unconventional way she became the president of the Women's National Basketball Players Association.

And how it felt when they passed the collective bargaining agreement, abbreviated as the CBA. Plus,

she talked to me about the hard lessons she learned navigating a tough knee injury last year

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