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DarkHorse Podcast

#192 How Now New World Cow (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2023

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

In this 192nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this episode we discuss how cattle got to the New World, and when and from where, and what that implies about the first cowboys. We discuss the fact that Nature published this compelling piece of research, and Science reported on it all wrong. We marvel that Nature admits that “scientists are under attack for someone else’s political gain”—but are not surprised to find they’ve got it backwards. Meanwhile, the pangolin vector hypothesis for SARS-CoV2 is being revived, and bats are hung out to dry (metaphorically), based on bad, debunked research that was done by researchers with perverse incentives.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Delsol et al 2023. Ancient DNA confirms diverse origins of early post-Columbian cattle in the Americas. Scientific reports 13(1): 12444. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-39518-3

Sluyter 2015. How Africans and their descendants participated in establishing open-range cattle ranching in the Americas. Environment and History 21(1): 77-101.https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/whp/eh/2015/00000021/00000001/art00005

Science goes full click-bait: https://www.science.org/content/article/america-s-first-cowboys-were-enslaved-africans-ancient-cow-dna-suggests

Peter Hotez in Nature: scientists are “under attack for someone else’s political gain”: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02981-z

Ralph Baric revives the pangolin vector of SARS-CoV2 hypothesis, but you weren’t supposed to notice: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-023-01476-x

Scientific American stokes fear of bats: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-secret-weapon-in-preventing-the-next-pandemic-fruit-bats/

Merlin Tuttle’s defense of bats: https://www.merlintuttle.org/response-to-misleading-american-scientific-bat-story/

Bret on bats in UnHerd, June 2021: https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-we-should-welcome-the-lab-leak-theory/


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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to Dark Horse Podcast live stream number 191 to I'm Dr. Brett Weinstein.

0:17.7

This is Dr. Heather Haring.

0:19.0

I have just returned from a trip to hell.

0:22.3

I went to hell.

0:23.7

I am now back.

0:24.7

Welcome back.

0:25.7

Thank you.

0:26.7

I had a run in with the coronavirus.

0:29.4

And I know that the variant that is circulating currently is supposed to be very mild.

0:34.8

That was not my experience.

0:36.3

My experience was quite profound.

0:37.6

I should say I did not test positive.

0:40.4

I took six tests, including a PCR, never came up positive, but the symptoms were so square

0:45.4

on the money that the nurse who saw me and the doctor with whom I consulted agree with

0:51.2

me that it really had to be coronavirus.

0:53.6

But anyway, watch yourselves out there.

0:57.0

It's still out there.

0:58.0

It's not a good disease.

0:59.3

It isn't especially deadly.

1:00.3

I never feared I was going to die, but man, it was not pleasant.

1:04.4

You were not well.

1:05.4

I was not well.

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