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🗓️ 13 October 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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It's been a year since the horrific attack in Israel that set off the current wars in the Middle East. Frank Foer from The Atlantic and David Rothkopf from The Daily Beast to talk about the painful year and what happens moving forward. If a ceasefire is worked out, what is the future of Gaza and how will it rebuild? What political price is America paying for its role in the wars? And does anyone actually think Donald Trump would be the best person to manage this crisis?
Plus, Nobel Prize-winning climate scientist Michael Mann kicks off this week's show! Hurricanes Helene and Milton have caused unprecedented damage to parts of the country. Unless we take action on climate, storms like this could be our new reality.
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Read Franklin Foer in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/franklin-foer/
Read David Rothkopf in The Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/david-rothkopf
Michael Mann's latest book, Our Fragile Moment, is out soon in paperback! https://michaelmann.net/books/our-fragile-moment
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0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. We got a great one today, you know, for a change, because we got Frank |
0:10.7 | Four and David Rothkoff on Israel and Gaza and Hezbollah and Lebanon and Iran and the |
0:18.7 | hoodies in Yemen. And we have climate scientist Michael Mann back to |
0:24.0 | talk about hurricanes Helene and Milton and how just maybe, maybe they're a function of global |
0:30.8 | warming or climate change. Those are the same things. The globe is getting warmer, according to |
0:36.9 | Michael. So let's start with Michael. |
0:40.6 | Hey, Mike. Great to be with you, Al. Yep. Just seem like these two storms, Helene and Milton, |
0:47.1 | may have been trying to tell us something. What do you suppose that is? Yeah, I think they're trying to tell us to, well, first of all, during the home stretch of an election that will determine the future course of climate action in the U.S. and arguably internationally, this is an issue that you should be thinking about. |
1:09.5 | Do you want a president who denies that climate change is real and wants to get rid of NOAA, |
1:15.5 | the government agency that is actually responsible for sending out the hurricane hunters |
1:20.2 | that make the measurements that we feed into the model so we can better predict the path |
1:24.9 | and the intensity of the hurricane? |
1:26.5 | And that would be axed under the Republican |
1:28.5 | plan agenda 2025. So I think there's a clear political message, and the large, obviously, |
1:36.1 | the related message, we've got to get our act in gear. It's late in the game. We've got to |
1:40.3 | reduce carbon emissions. We've got to get off fossil fuels. Now, the path of Helene was much more dangerous. |
1:49.0 | It went up into the mountains up in Western North Carolina |
1:53.1 | and the Tennessee even, right? |
1:55.3 | Yeah. |
1:56.8 | And in fact, Asheville, North Carolina, which was hit particularly hard, it's sort of, |
2:04.8 | there are a couple ironies there. |
2:06.6 | Unfortunate ironies. |
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