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History That Doesn't Suck

192: A Conversation with Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein: The American Revolution and WWII

History That Doesn't Suck

ProfGregJackson

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.55.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Professor Greg Jackson sits down with legendary documentary filmmaker Ken Burns and his co-producer Sarah Botstein to discuss their newest film series, The American Revolution plus a conversation about their 2007 WWII series, The War. Ken and Sarah’s latest endeavor about the American War for Independence has been in production for nearly a decade, and the release comes on the cusp of America’s 250th anniversary. According to Ken, the American Revolution is “the most important historical event since the birth of Christ.” We’ll let you judge that claim for yourself as you listen to Dr. Jackson and our two guests discuss the war and its major players, their production process, maps, and much more.  Ken and Sarah also discuss The War which they worked on together delving into “the greatest cataclysm in human history,” to quote Ken—World War II. If America was “born” after the Revolutionary War, it came of age during the Second World War. Don’t fret, we’ll get back to covering that war very soon. Next up: Japan.  The American Revolution, a six-part, 12-hour documentary series, will premiere on Sunday, November 16 and air each night through Friday, November 21st.  ____ Connect with us on ⁠HTDSpodcast.com⁠ and go deep into ⁠episode bibliographies⁠ and ⁠book recommendations⁠ join discussions in our ⁠Facebook community⁠ get news and discounts from ⁠The HTDS Gazette⁠  come ⁠see a live show⁠ get ⁠HTDS merch⁠ or become an ⁠HTDS premium⁠ member for bonus episodes and other perks. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.6

Hello, my friends. This is Professor Greg Jackson and welcome to a special episode of

0:34.9

history that doesn't suck. We're going to return to our narrative

0:37.7

episodes of World War II soon, continuing toward the United States official entry into the fight

0:42.6

on that date which will live in infamy, to quote FDR. But today, I'm sharing with you my

0:48.8

conversation with documentary filmmaker Ken Burns and his co-producer Sarah Botstein about their latest film, The American Revolution.

0:57.1

I'm confident that none of you listening today need an introduction as to who Ken is and the importance of his

1:02.7

contribution to the telling of American history. But you may not know that Sarah has been a long-time

1:07.5

collaborator with Ken on such films as the U.S. and the Holocaust, the Vietnam

1:11.7

War, Prohibition, Jazz, The Wars, and Others. I got to attend a luncheon and screening of this

1:17.7

new film with Ken and Sarah in Newark, New Jersey, and I was proud to host a community screening

1:22.5

in Salt Lake City for PBS, Utah. So I've had the privilege of seeing the work in advance,

1:27.1

and no surprise. It's excellent. A-plus.

1:31.3

And so I was grateful for the opportunity to speak with both Ken and Sarah about the American Revolution,

1:36.6

but also their World War II docu-series, The War. As you'll hear, we discussed the continued

1:42.0

relevance and benefit of studying those two events,

1:44.9

two of the most important events in American history.

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