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Episode 191, Superpower interrupted, an interview with Michael Schuman.

Podcasting, at least history podcasting, can often be a pretty solo and even lonely endeavor.

Now that of course is not always the case. There's plenty of great shows out there with multiple hosts, but not mine.

And I've got no problem with that at all.

But maybe chalk it up to months and months and months and months of isolation, and even I get rather jumpy at the chance of talking directly

to someone, especially about something as niche and nerdy as Chinese history.

And so as luck would have it, who should reach out but author Michael Schuman, author and journalist at large, who's based out of Beijing.

It turned out that he was in the process of publishing just such a book, and wondered if I'd be interested in getting an advanced copy and then telling him what I thought of it.

And so, after burning through the pages, I was only too happy to invite him on to discuss all things China,

from its ancient past to what's best to eat today and what the future might have in store.

Standard disclaimer, you'll no doubt quickly hear that this is conducted via Zoom and it has all the

audio quality and little lags and drags that we've all just come to expect in such things.

Nevertheless, it was a great conversation that I most certainly enjoyed and I hope you will

too.

Without further ado, my conversation with author Michael Schuman.

So today we are joined by author Michael Schuman, who is in the process and just about to release his new book,

Super Power Interrupted, the Chinese History of the World,

which will be coming out in June of this year.

Hi Michael, welcome.

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