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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#191 — Early Thoughts on a Pandemic

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Amesh Adalja about the spreading coronavirus pandemic. They discuss the contagiousness of the virus and the severity of the resultant illness, the mortality rate and risk factors, vectors of transmission, how long coronavirus can live on surfaces, the importance of social distancing, possible anti-viral treatments, the timeline for a vaccine, the importance of pandemic preparedness, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast. This is Sam Harris.

0:04.1

Okay, this is my second podcast on coronavirus.

0:08.8

And it is very consciously a follow-up to the one I just dropped with Nicholas Christakis.

0:15.2

I've done this with Dr. Amish Adalcia,

0:18.8

who's an infectious disease specialist affiliated with Johns Hopkins University.

0:23.7

As many of you know, the Johns Hopkins website has become a resource for

0:28.4

more or less everyone on the spread of coronavirus.

0:31.5

And Amish has a background in infectious disease and he's helped develop US government

0:38.7

guidelines for the treatment of plague and botulism and anthrax.

0:44.5

He has edited the journal Health Security of volume on global catastrophic biological

0:50.6

risks.

0:51.8

He's a contributing author to the handbook of bioterism and disaster medicine.

0:55.9

So the spread of an emerging pandemic is very much in his wheelhouse.

1:01.7

As you'll hear, he sounds less concerned than I do.

1:07.2

And the reasons for that they come explicit at two points.

1:13.0

So I just want to flag that here so that you have an emotional barometer to the

1:18.0

conversation.

1:19.3

The first is that his estimate for the case fatality rate for coronavirus,

1:25.0

worst case puts it at 0.6%, which is six times worse than influenza.

1:34.3

But quite a bit better than the worst case scenarios being talked about elsewhere.

1:40.7

He definitely thinks that this is going to be considerably lower than 1% fatality.

1:46.9

So if true, that's obviously good news.

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