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1904: The White Collar Support Group

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

It’s hard to imagine former executives, investment fraudsters, and insider traders gathering for weekly support meetings. When I first heard about a support group for white-collar criminals, I was skeptical. It sounded like an SNL sketch: former hedge fund managers, insider traders, and embezzlers sitting in a circle, sharing their woes. However, Jeff Grant, the founder of the White Collar Support Group, doesn’t see it that way. After serving time for his crimes, Grant emerged with a mission—to help others like him rebuild their lives, one meeting at a time. “I was lost,” he admits. After his release from prison, Grant realized there was no blueprint for people like him to re-enter society. That’s why he founded the White Collar Support Group, a space for those prosecuted for financial crimes to navigate life after prison. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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When I got out of prison, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I just knew I wanted to help people.

0:27.0

This is Jeff Grant, the founder of the first and only white collar support group that I know of anyway.

0:32.0

I decided to apply to seminary,

0:36.0

you know, Divinity School and then got a master's of divinity and became a

0:42.0

Reverend and so there I am a and became a reverend.

0:43.0

And so there I am a Jewish Reverend.

0:46.0

Don't ask me how that works out, I don't know.

0:49.0

Jeff was lost and religion gave him direction, a sense of purpose.

0:53.7

So he started working in churches and volunteering at criminal justice organizations.

0:58.6

And in the course of doing that, we founded the white colorar Support Group and our ministry that's devoted to supporting people

1:06.8

who have been prosecuted for white collar crimes and their families and that really just

1:10.8

took off.

1:11.8

A White Collar support group? Yes, think of it as AA but for

1:17.6

Ponzi schemers, corrupt CEOs, investment fraudsters, insider traders, you know, those kind of guys.

1:24.7

The kind of people who would never be caught lifting your wallet on a bus, but don't think twice

1:30.1

about embezzling funds from your company's account or draining your life savings.

1:34.9

For the most part, these are privileged individuals who are well educated, had high-paying jobs,

1:41.3

and were in a position of power. Of all the people, these might be the last guys you

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