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In this week's episode, we are visiting the beautiful Umbria region with our guest, Alex Trembath,

a travel blogger from website Careagappers.com, based in the UK.

They help people take extended career breaks by sharing their experiences and helping people build their own itineries for longer trips.

Alex and his wife Lisa spent a week exploring some of the wine regions and towns in Umbria,

and he's joined us to share what they learned on their travels.

Umbria is Italy's most central region found to the north of Rome and east of Tuscany.

It's a popular place to visit for people who love wine, food experiences, pretty towns and exploring

the outdoors. I'm sure there's going to be some great ideas for future trips of our own,

so let's get started. Ciao, welcome Alex to the Untold Italy podcast. Thanks so much for joining us.

It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me. Great. Alex, I gave our listeners some insight into your background earlier, but perhaps you can tell us something about yourself and how you came to be in Umbria.

Okay, yes. So I would say primarily it's a love of wine that brought me to Umbria.

So together with my wife, Lisa, we are the co-founders of career gappers,

which is a blog about travel career breaks. And so when we were, we took a year out of work

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