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Ian, you always did quite well at school.

Yeah, I did actually.

What's the nicest thing you ever did for your teacher?

Um, my religious education teacher, Mr Walker, who went above and beyond and allowed us to study

psychology. He took extra classes outside of school time so we could study it for higher.

Hold on a second. You studied psychology extra and you always complain to me how much I love the psychology

of all these cases and you always say it's not important and look at you. Extra classes.

I know all about Pavlov and Skinner's rats and all that. I know all of it. This is news to me.

What was your teacher called? Mr Walker and we got him nominated for like teach Scottish teacher

of the year or something. He was very good man, very

wonderful man. Jen was speaking, didn't really understand teachers as a thing

when I was a kid because I didn't like school so I don't understand why anyone

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