Y'all, I want to tell you about one of my good friends, Sarah Turnie's podcast,

Voices for Justice. Sarah started Voices for Justice by discussing her own sister,

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Previously on Murder and Alliance. And pardon me, feels like he would have been screaming

this for the rooftops for a long time if that was really the case. What are the chances? This kind

of man snaps because he won't just doesn't want to have sex with him. I mean if I'm sitting here

right now I think that Joe has... I think it's tough just to get the words out of it. I just don't

know what to do. I don't know what to do. I feel like I got like, I got a tough job. I feel like

I got emotional. I don't know. I'd feel really confused. This is emotional work. I know it's really

good for you. This is Murder and Alliance. An active investigation into who killed

a Von Lane. I'm Maggie Freeling.

In August of this year we finally had an interview scheduled with David Thorn, the man whose murder

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