Huh. Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hi there, I'm Jason Gatz, and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

Big Think is an online forum for big ideas from the world's most creative thinkers and doers.

With the Think Again podcast, we're striking out into uncharted and dangerous territory.

We're seeing what happens when experts are asked to respond

to interview clips on topics they may or may not have any knowledge about. We want to see what

happens with no script, no preparation. Each week, our producers tunnel deep into Big Thinks Archives

to find ideas that are innovative, timely, or timelessly thought-provoking, and the clips are a total

surprise to my guests and to me.

Today, I'm very, very happy to be joined by Ruth Reichel, the best-selling author of the food memoirs,

garlic and sapphires, and tender at the bone, editor-in-chief of Gourmet Magazine for a decade.

Her new book is My Kitchen Year, 136 recipes that saved my life. Welcome

to think again, Ruth. Great to be here. So that's a pretty strong statement, recipes

that saved my life. It's a true statement. The magazine was abruptly closed by Condane

asked, didn't see it coming. I was out of work for the first time since I was

16. I was 62 years old. No idea if I would ever get another job. Feeling, you know,

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