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#189 These Evangelicals Are Trying to Start WWIII… - Joe Heschmeyer

Shameless Popery

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Joe dives deeper into the wildness that is Dispensationalism, and looks at some of the people and books responsible for spreading it in modern times? Were they able to predict the future? No….not even close actually. Transcript: Joe: Welcome back to Shameless Popery. I’m Joe Heschmeyer and know the title of this video is not an exaggeration, it’s not clickbait. Today we’re actually going to explore how a dangerous misreading of scripture is leading some influential Christians to try to go to Israel and the United States into starting World War iii. Now, the theology at ...

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Welcome back to James Popery. I'm Joe Heschbar and know the title of this video is not an exaggeration, it's not clickbait.

0:05.8

Today we're actually going to explore how a dangerous misreading of scripture is leading some influential Christians

0:12.0

to try to goad Israel and the United States into starting World War III.

0:16.0

Now the theology at hand is called dispensationalism. And many evangelicals today think that this is just

0:21.7

Bible Christianity or just what Christians have always believed. But the truth is that this form of

0:26.7

Christianity is actually rather new. Now, it's a nuanced theology, but to sketch it out very roughly

0:31.6

here, it's built upon the idea that God has two covenant peoples. He's got Israel and he's got the church, and they have distinct

0:39.0

identities. Israel is promised a physical promised land, and the church is going to be taken up into

0:45.4

heaven in an event that the dispensationalist called the rapture. Now, many American Christians,

0:50.7

as I say, think that this is just what Christians have always believed or what

0:54.4

Christians just believe today. A large majority of the Christian world has embraced the worldview

0:59.8

of the rapture, hookline, and sink. People like John Hagee, Jack Hibbs, Greg Lorry, David Jeremiah,

1:07.2

and Jimmy Evans are all teaching the rapture as if it's 100% fact.

1:13.3

But this really isn't true. I mean, in terms of global Christianity, dispensationalism is an

1:17.8

extreme fringe. And it's a new one, too. Belief in the rapture and in dispensationalism more broadly

1:23.5

really only traces back to John Nelson Darby in the 1800s into the publication of the Schofield

1:29.6

Reference Bible in the early 1900. Now, I know some dispensationalists will try to find like a figure

1:34.3

here or there that's earlier, but key to this worldview is the idea that Christians have to

1:40.0

support the nation of Israel. And on the surface, that looks harmless. For instance, the New York

1:45.4

Times best-selling dispensationalist Mike Evans argues in why Christians should support Israel,

1:50.6

that we are commanded to support the nation state of Israel in Genesis 12. Now, I just had a video

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recently looking at an exchange between Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson on Israel, and in that I showed

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