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189: From Vision to Valuation: Disrupting the Future - With Cathie Wood, Founder & CEO of ARK Invest

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Money Maze Podcast

Business, Investing, Management, News, Business News

4.8216 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

When we interviewed Howard Marks in March of 2025, he observed, “It's the pioneers who get the arrows”. Many consider a 21st century investment pioneer to be Cathie Wood.

She embraces disruptive innovation themes early, has faced intense criticism during large drawdowns, has reshaped ETF thinking and is characterised as bold, influential, and controversial. 

Cathie explains why studying under Arthur Laffer inspired her to think about private sector disruptive innovation driving growth. 

She explains how multiple S curves can operate simultaneously, and how Ark fuses the macro and thematic with bottom-up conviction, along with the volatility. 

She continues by discussing idea generation and Ark’s big themes including multiomic sequencing, energy storage and robotics.

She discusses risk, benchmarks, setbacks, and where to go to find work in an AI disrupted world.

The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders, IFM Investors, World Gold Council and LSEG.

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When Amazon had hit $5 billion in market cap,

0:05.0

and it's probably going to sustain this revenue growth rate

0:10.0

in the 20 to 30% range for 20 years.

0:14.0

Nobody believed that.

0:16.0

Well, that's exactly what happened.

0:18.0

The first whole human genome was sequenced in 2003. The cost to

0:23.6

do so was $2.7 billion, and it took 13 years to get there. We were not ready for prime time.

0:33.6

That 2.7 billion to sequence one human genome is down to $200. That 13 years is down to a couple of hours.

0:43.3

You know, we have never seen this amount of technologically enabled disruption in history.

0:50.3

You have to go back to the late 1800s, early 1900s, internal combustion engine,

0:55.1

telephone, electricity to see a true technology revolution. What regulation would you like

1:01.8

to see around AI, if any? To regulate AI right now would have been like regulating the internet

1:10.4

in the late 80s and early 90s before we really

1:13.7

understood its ramifications safety security is paramount but we've seen other industries

1:22.9

regulated out of business and a really good one is nuclear power. Regulation really can hold

1:31.5

innovation back. When we interviewed Howard Marks in March of this year, he observed it's the pioneers

1:37.8

who get the arrows. And what I've learned is that in investing, the main way you gain unusual

1:43.2

success is by doing things that

1:45.2

other people don't want to do. It's hard to achieve singular success by joining the herd.

1:51.0

Well, many consider a 21st century investment pioneer to be Kathy Wood. She embraces disruptive

1:57.8

innovation themes early, has faced intense criticism during large drawdowns,

2:02.7

has reshaped ETF thinking, and is characterized as bold, influential, controversial, and

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