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I want people to go out and find the thing they care about and fight for it.

We all need advocates.

People don't all have to love the glaciers,

but they've got to love something,

and they need to be willing to fight for it.

That was Dr. M. Jackson, a geographer, glaciologist, and a National Geographic Society

explorer.

She's also the author of the nonfiction books, The Secret Lives of Glaciers, and While

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