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Conspirituality

188: Everybody Wants to Save the Children (feat Esme Providence Brown)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2024

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

What happens when white knights role-play at saving all the children? What impacts do they have on the actual realities faced by trafficked children and adults? And how does their propaganda—rolled out in blockbuster trauma porn events like Sound of Freedom—stigmatize and endanger adult sex workers, especially those who are already marginalized? Esme Providence Brown returns as our correspondent to run it down. Brown retired from professional sex work in 2021 after twenty-year career in Manhattan. She first joined us on Episode 169 to talk about the strange overlaps between sex work and the neo-tantra yoga movement. In this richly-researched report and discussion with Matthew, she examines the history of and present-day ramifications of anti-trafficking movements—projects that often scapegoat women who are secretly desired but publicly hated. “Everybody wants to save the children,” Brown says, “but very few people want to step into the tangled web of what this actually means or the history of how ‘salvation’ movements - hobbled by grandiosity, white knighthood, and patriarchal ignorance—have incurred collateral damage while failing in their ultimate mission of liberation.” Show notes for this one are extensive, and won’t fit into most pod apps. You can find them here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Blast Box Media Podcast.

0:06.0

What happens when White Knights role play at saving the children?

0:11.0

What impacts do they have on the actual realities

0:14.6

faced by trafficked children and adults? And how does their propaganda stigmatize

0:20.1

and endanger adult sex workers, especially those who are already

0:25.0

marginalized.

0:27.0

Esme Providence Brown returns as our correspondent to run it down.

0:32.2

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