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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

188 | Arik Kershenbaum on What Aliens Will Be Like

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2022

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

If extraterrestrial life is out there — not just microbial slime, but big, complex, macroscopic organisms — what will they be like? Movies have trained us to think that they won’t be that different at all; they’ll even drink and play music at the same cafes that humans frequent. A bit of imagination, however, makes us wonder whether they won’t be completely alien — we have zero data about what extraterrestrial biology could be like, so it makes sense to keep an open mind. Arik Kershenbaum argues for a judicious middle ground. He points to constraints from physics and chemistry, as well as the tendency of evolution to converge toward successful designs, as reasons to think that biologically complex aliens won’t be utterly different from us after all.

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Arik Kershenbaum received his Ph.D. in Evolutionary Biology and Ecology from the University of Haifa. He is currently College Lecturer and Director of Studies at Girton College, University of Cambridge. He is the author of The Zoologist’s Guide to the Galaxy: What Animals on Earth Reveal About Aliens — and Ourselves.


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0:00.0

Hello everyone, welcome to the Binescape Podcast. I'm your host Sean Carroll. In various

0:04.6

conversations, both here on the podcast and elsewhere, out there in what you might think

0:09.2

of as the real world, I've noticed that the topic of extraterrestrial life, life on

0:14.0

other planets elsewhere, let's just say in our galaxy, is one that engenders very strong

0:19.0

emotional reactions. People feel very strongly about this topic, about whether or not such

0:25.1

life exists, about whether or not it will be technologically advanced, whether it will be

0:29.1

friendly, whether it will be like us or something completely different. Which when you think

0:33.2

about it is funny. I mean, why should you have such emotional reactions about something,

0:37.9

about which we know so little, about which there is so little data. I think that it's

0:43.1

okay. I mean, as a good Bayesian, you're going to have priors about the likelihood of certain

0:47.8

things, but you shouldn't be so confident one way or the other. I have my own beliefs. You

0:53.1

know, I think that it's actually unlikely that in our galaxy, there are other very advanced

0:58.5

technological civilizations out there. If I didn't know anything, if I didn't have any

1:03.0

data at all, I would think that might be very likely. There are a lot of planets out there

1:06.6

after all. But if there were technologically advanced civilizations, it would be very

1:11.0

easy to have noticed them already. And we haven't. Now, maybe they're hiding or whatever

1:15.4

perfectly possible, but it's just easiest to imagine they're just not there. But again,

1:20.9

we should be open minded. I could be completely wrong about this. When it comes to what life

1:25.7

is going to be like, again, we know very little, it's certainly very plausible that life

1:31.2

is ubiquitous, but it's just single-celled or extremely primitive in all sorts of ways.

1:36.8

If life does become complicated, if you get eukaryotic or the equivalent multicellular

1:42.4

life in a variety of different configurations, what are those organisms going to be like?

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