#187 The Protestant Canon REBUTTED (Gavin Ortlund, Cleave to Antiquity and Javier Perdomo) - Joe Heschmeyer
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🗓️ 3 July 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to James Popery. I'm Joe Heschmire. And today I want to explore the Protestant Bible and whether it has the right number of books. |
| 0:06.5 | Because as you may know, Protestant Bibles are seven books shorter than Catholic Bibles are also shorter than Orthodox Bibles. |
| 0:12.6 | And there's a lot of debate about this and it matters a lot to know if we've got the right Bible. |
| 0:16.9 | And I want to look particularly at some of the objections handled by three gentlemen recently over on Dr. Gavin Ortland's channel. |
| 0:24.6 | It was Dr. Ortland, along with Javier Podomo and the guy behind Cleveland to antiquity, whose name I think is Matt, but I apologize if I'm getting it wrong. |
| 0:32.4 | His name turns out to be Ben. |
| 0:34.4 | So I want to look at first the sort of canonical problem, the canon conundrum, as they call it, |
| 0:41.4 | whether Protestants can solve it, whether Catholics are in the same boat, and then get into some of the |
| 0:46.5 | historical evidence. So broadly speaking, I'm going to look at this in two halves. First, looking at |
| 0:51.3 | authority and infallibility. Do Protestants know for sure which books are in the Bible? |
| 0:56.0 | Do they need infallibility to be able to do that? |
| 0:59.0 | And then, what do the Bible of the early Christians look like? |
| 1:02.0 | What can we say about the Bible in Jesus' own day? |
| 1:05.0 | So let's do part one first. |
| 1:08.0 | And so here they are kind of laying out what they call the canon canon. |
| 1:11.3 | The word canon has to do with which books are in scripture. This is a huge issue. This is |
| 1:15.2 | one that I think a lot of people have anxieties about and uncertainties about. So you may be |
| 1:19.7 | interested in this video. If you're just curious, how did, how was the Christian Bible formed? |
| 1:25.3 | What did that process look like? And especially if you've heard objections Protestant views of the canon, and you're wondering how to respond to that, do we have a fallible list of infallible books? |
| 1:36.3 | And what does that imply? |
| 1:38.3 | And then historical questions. Is there any historical basis for a Protestant view? |
| 1:42.6 | But I actually don't think that they maybe go far enough in explaining why this is a problem. |
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