On The Pilot TV Podcast this week, we are heading back to Hawkins for the very long-awaited

fourth season of Netflix's Stranger Things, taken to the skies with Kaley Koko in season

two of the flight attendant on Sky and reliving the horrors of freshest week with that wee

English fella in Big Boys on Channel 4. Plus, this week's guest is none other than

Indira Varma, who starts by the show to talk Obi-Wan, Game of Thrones, and more.

I'm James Dyer, and welcome to The Pilot TV Podcast, your weekly guide to every new show

that matters, and the occasional one that doesn't. This is episode 187, the police code for murder,

but I would like to state for the record that that is entirely coincidental, and in no way connected

the fact that Beth is not with us this week, she is alive and well, and living in the south of

the front. But as a result of that, however, my long-suffering co-host, Boyd and I, were a need

of a replacement, the criteria for which was very simple, just someone who watches a shitload

of telly and holds me in absolute contempt. And we found someone who fit the bill, so hailing

from the seat next to Boyd in the heat office. We are joined today by a woman who, and this is

absolutely true, does have an IMDB page and listed upon it, are two entries, including one

for documentary, most annoying people, 2009, in which she simply plays, self. It's Kay Rivera.

Kay, tell us, please, who was the most annoying person in 2009? It was Chris Brown.

Was it? Chris Brown was. Chris Brown won. Yeah, I mean, Chris Brown won. James Dyer too.

Oh, that's fair. That is fair. That's fair. Did you know me in 2009?

I'm fortunate, I did. Yeah, I think you probably do. But we go away from it. We do go very, very

popular. You probably won't talk into each other. No, almost that need not.

No, not studiously ignoring each other. Yeah, yeah, I was just a twat in the kitchen,

and that's it. Yeah. As you were known. As I was known. Well, actually, what I was actually

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