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Yeah. Hey, so it's been a few months, Joe, since we talked.

I am so interested in my first question.

Okay, you're obviously, you entered the race.

How many months ago? Pretty early early so February of 20 or 21 yeah so is it exceeding meeting are you underwhelmed like you got to explain this process because every guy

I know so Graham Allen's a buddy mine too and every guy that I know is like this is a like a bare

knuckle fist fight. Like politics is like a bare knuckle fist fight. So you can't walk me through

your experience in this, man. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, that's fairly accurate. I'd say

a bare knuckle fist fight. I mean, this is somewhere between doing unconventional warfare,

going out and doing tribal engagement every day, which that part feels familiar. I think the meat and

potatoes of doing politics to like an SF guy, I think would feel relatively just familiar because

you're having to go and talk to different people and have different perspectives and seeing

how you can kind of make those perspectives, you know, mesh together and then have some sort of a coherent plan. That part feels

very familiar when it comes down to the fundraising and then going from being, and you probably

can relate to this, from being a very private person to being a very public person, that's where

it's like an unfamiliar bare knuckles fist fight. I guess a real barrenuckles fistfight would feel way more familiar than like having to live in the limelight, which comes with it. I knew that that was going to happen. But then I think a lot of two just having to deal with, you know, raising a bunch of money, asking people for money and then, you know, really worrying about stepping on people's toes and all that type of stuff. So, yeah, it's been, I think I would say it's, there's a lot of stuff I just didn't

anticipate. But I kind of knew I was getting into the unknown. So I guess that's where I'm at.

How much, how much money does this cost? Can you talk about that? Like,? Yeah. We cost. I mean, pretty much everybody in

DC will tell you, like, you never have enough money and just so constantly keep raising. The most

realistic numbers I've, I've heard, and this is based on how the last couple of cycles went,

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