Welcome to Among the Lillies. I'm your host, Cameron Frad, and in today's episode, I'm going

to talk about whether, so I had a girl write to me. I've talked about women, you know, just

being there for each other, being positive, like being supports, like we have the ability

to build each other up or tear each other down. Because that's kind of what I struggled

with when I was younger, and even now kind of ish. No, I have great friends, so I don't

really struggle with it now, but I know people that still struggle with this. And I had

quite a few people say that they don't feel judged by other women, but they do by men,

by guys, especially younger college age girls. And this girl wrote to me and she's like,

I really feel judged by guys. I feel like he thinks I'm not holy enough to date me or

to ask me out or to even be my friend. I was like, oh, well, that's really weird. So I

like went and wrote on Patreon. I'm like, has anyone else seen this or experienced this?

And everyone's like, yes, apparently this is a big thing, at least for my ladies that

I talk to. And it's more, they're getting it more from kind of more rad, rad-trad-ish-type

guys. So before I dive into this topic, because I feel like it's a bit of a hot topic,

I have a lot of friends that go to the Extraordinary Form Mass. We used to go to a, we were part

of a Latin parish, an Extraordinary Form parish in San Diego. And I loved it. I actually

really loved all the people there. They were wonderful, beautiful. I really liked the

priest. I don't think I fit into that very specific TLM rad-trad-woman box at all. Because

hello, look at these beautiful shoulders that I have. I, yes. So, and I, I don't think

I necessarily, I think I do prefer like a really well done, beautiful Nova Sordo, but

I'm not anti-Latin. And I'm not anti-carrismatic. I'm pro all these people. I'm pro-Catholic.

It's universal. But I, when I'm talking about this particular guy that I, that all these

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