Hello friends, welcome. So excited that you're here with me today. I cannot wait to share this conversation with Stephen and Mark Hovey with you.

We're talking about the type of leadership the United States needs right now.

And the type of leadership we need in our communities and in our homes.

So I hope you'll join me because here's where it gets interesting.

I'm Sharon McMan and welcome to the Sharon Says So podcast.

I am really excited to be chatting with one of the world's authorities on leadership. Stephen Covey. Thank you for being here.

Hey, thank you Sharon. I'm so excited to be with you today.

Tell everybody a little bit more about your background. How you got started working in this space and what your work has looked like over the years.

Well, I started in this space partly because of my father who is Dr. Stephen Arkhovey wrote kind of the big book The Seven Habits of highly effective people.

A lot of people know about and have read or seen.

And what's interesting is that I was kind of in there on the ground floor when the Seven Habits was being put together by my dad.

With all of us kids, you know, we had a big family. There were nine kids. I was one of them.

And and we were the first guinea pigs. I like to say of his of his ideas of his teachings. And he tried it with us first.

So I kind of knew that the the Seven Habits book was coming out. I knew it was going to be good because I'd seen how it impacted us as kids.

But I also saw as my dad had done some consulting and speaking in different settings. How is impacting people.

And yet the book had not been published and I just finished business school. I went to Harvard Business School got an MBA.

I'd done different things. I worked on a short stand on Wall Street. I worked in real estate development.

But then I decided I'm going to join with my dad because I think he's got a book that could really change the world.

And I want to be a part of that. And so I joined a small company, you know, compared to these big offers and everything because I wanted to make a difference.

And it got me involved. And then that happened right before the Seven Habits came out and then that came out. And it went really big.

And and we built our company. And I began to, you know, work with clients and then and then lead clients and teams.

And then pretty soon I was running building the company for my dad all around the world, which was really fun.

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