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🗓️ 24 February 2020
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In my workshops and weekly training group for community therapists at Stanford, we often include personal work as a part of the training. The personal work can help in several ways:
Rhonda recently surveyed some of our listeners about live therapy we sometimes offer on our podcasts—do you prefer to have the live therapy presented all at once, in an extended, two-hour podcast, or split up over two or more podcasts with expert commentary along the way?
Our listeners were split on this. So today we are presenting an actual and dramatic therapy session in its entirely. If you don’t have two hours to listen all at once, you can stop after an hour or so, and then return to the last portion when you have more time.
And please let us know what you think of this live therapy podcast format!
In today’s session, we are very grateful to Sarah, a certified TEAM-CBT therapist, for allowing us to share her very personal and powerful session with you. Sarah was having intense anxiety during her sessions with patients, and her anxiety was bordering on panic.
This is actually not unusual. In my experience, most shrinks struggle with feelings of insecurity from time to time. But when we shrinks experience insecurities, we often feel strong shame as well, telling ourselves that we “should” have it all together because we are supposedly “experts.”
I’m no exception! I can remember how anxious I used to feel on Sundays when I was starting out in private practice. I’d tell myself, “Wow, I’m going to have all of these high-powered patients tomorrow, and what if they notice that I don’t actually know what I’m doing half of the time!?”
But then, halfway through Monday morning, it would dawn on me that my patients didn’t seem to notice or care about my flaws, and I’d relax!
Although Sarah brought a Daily Mood Log to the session, listing all of the negative thoughts that were triggering her anxiety, along with many other intense negative feelings, the session took an unexpected turn in the direction of the Hidden Emotion Model.
We’ve done several podcasts on this powerful technique before, and now you have the chance to see how it works first-hand! Instead of challenging Sarah’s negative thoughts, as we usually do, we asked whether there was something bothering Sarah that she wasn’t telling us about, due to her arguably excessive “niceness.”
I think you’ll enjoy listening, and you may learn a little, too! My co-therapists for this session included Dr. Rhonda Barovsky, my beloved and brilliant podcast host, as well as Kevin Cornelius, MFT, a fabulous TEAM therapist whom I’ve recently featured in a recent blog!
Rhonda and I want to thank you, Sarah, once again, for your tremendous courage and generosity!
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. |
0:16.3 | I am your host, Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. |
0:22.6 | Dr. David Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new team therapy. |
0:29.6 | He is the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. |
0:38.3 | David is currently an emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University |
0:43.6 | School of Medicine. |
0:45.0 | Hello, Rhonda. |
0:48.5 | Hello, David. |
0:50.4 | Oh, I don't know why we're laughing because we're about to listen to a podcast that's a little |
0:53.5 | sad, but has a very happy ending. |
0:56.2 | So that's where the laughter comes in from. |
0:58.7 | And by the way, I stopped doing the weird hello Ronda's a couple months ago because we got an email from a fellow. |
1:05.7 | I don't have it in front of me, but he's from Guatemala. |
1:08.5 | And I thought he was emailing saying he was getting so sick of the weird hello Ronda, |
1:13.1 | so I got all ashamed and we've stopped doing that. |
1:15.8 | Right. |
1:16.2 | And I just got an email from him about two days ago saying, what happened to the cool |
1:20.4 | hello Rondos that he meant to tell us that he loved him and don't stop doing that? |
1:26.6 | And that the weirder they got the more |
1:28.8 | he liked it and he said this gives us a human relaxed aspect to the show so we're bringing it back |
1:35.8 | run okay listeners wait this is podcast 181 and we're going to real brief, and then you're going to hear some live work. |
1:46.8 | The title of this is going to be, A High Anxiety, Shrinks Are Human Too. |
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