I think any time we're having trouble understanding whether or not you end up agreeing you could still listen and spend time outside of your own self and still disagree,

but I think at any time if you're willing and trying to be empathetic, your best bet is to listen.

Hands down. here with my very very very special guest Bonnie Lewis

Bonnie hello welcome back to the show how are you I'm good it's so good to be

back Bonnie for those of you who are new to the podcast, Bonnie is a dear friend of mine who I initially met.

I always tell the story because it's just so just so awesome and in fact I had a guy from

rock Harbor Bonnie who was offended he came up to me after our first podcast

together he was like oh I thought I thought I had a good one. And I was like, no.

I'm sorry, I said that.

I worked at a church called Rock Harbor back in the day.

And I was a teaching pastor and we were trying to raise up other teachers so we did this teaching class and open it up for people in the community to send in their own teaching tapes and get critiqued and whatever and literally the best and I'm sorry I tell this story every time Bonnie but the by far the best one was from a 19 year old young lady named Bonnie Lewis and that has she's been a research

assistant for me I've been a research assistant for her and it has been absolutely

glorious so Bonnie you now live in Texas where you've been for a couple years now.

Three?

Yeah, almost two. Almost two.

And I guess the big news, Bonnie, is that you decided that Eugene Peterson can't have all the fun in writing translations of the Bible or

he can't have all the fun.

So we're translating the Bible, is that correct?

Yes, that is correct.

About a month ago, well, it's been in progress and process for over a year, but a month

ago I let the world know and put it on Kickstarter. So it's actually a translation and stuff on

Kickstarter right now.

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