I just remember looking down and about the clothes up and I was kind of looking at the shelf right under me kind of like I am right now.

And when I looked back up, it was a gun right in my face.

That gun is, you know, kind of right there.

Just out of the blue, I mean, I was like, wow.

And the first thing I thought about was a teenager who was working there.

It was real jovial guy.

He made it fun.

It didn't matter if it was a thousand people.

We had to do orders for that day if it were 100.

And I just remember thinking, man, do not shoot him. Do not shoot me. I do not want to tell his mom that him working or got him hurt or kill.

Hello friends and welcome back to the Light. got him hurt or kill.

Hello friends and welcome back to the Light Watkins show. I'm Light Watkins and I interview ordinary folks just like you and me

who've taken extraordinary leaps of faith in the direction of their

path, their purpose, or what they've identified as their mission in life.

And in doing so, they've been able to positively impact and inspire the lives of many other people who've either heard about their story

or who witnessed them in action or people who have directly benefited from their work.

And today I am back in conversation with my old childhood friend who happens to now be the first

black mayor of my hometown of Montgomery, Alabama. His name is Mayor Stephen Reed. And

Stephen has a new book out called First Best Lessons and Leadership and legacy from today's civil rights movement.

And the book goes into areas of his backstory that we didn't actually get into in our first

podcast conversation together. More than that though, I wanted

to make this a sort of handbook for running for office and what it's really like to throw

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